OCtoolguy Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 I know I have read here by some of you folks that you use glue and sawdust to do fill in and repair. I made a slight error today and need to fill a spot that I cut too close to the line. It's a very small glitch but it would not be something that I want to have my name on. I know I can fix it with some walnut sawdust and glue but my question is, what is the procedure so that I can still finish my project with danish oil and not have a glue spot jump out and be obvious? Does it come down to how much dust I use to how much glue? And is the regular woodworker's glue the right type of glue? I hate to appear ignorant here but I guess I am. So, I'm relying on you more experienced woodworkers to help me out. Thanks to all who participate. tomsteve and OzarkSawdust 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 experienced woodworkers - ahh no, but I will chime in anyway I put a dollop of glue on a piece of paper, then cover that with saw dust, start mixing. Put enough saw dust in there until you get a thick paste. If I can see the glint of glue, it reflects light somewhat, keep mixing. I don't know any other way to explain it. After you do it a time or two you get to know when you have the paste correct. I have also tried Famowood, that was recommended by someone here ( the name escapes me, I have CRS it seems - Can't remember sh..), it works very well but finding a match to the wood (other than walnut) Is hard IMO. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 I'm not a pro when it comes to glue or finishing.. That said.. I've made sawdust glue as Jim says.. My experience with finishing after a glue & sawdust mix has been applied to a small drill hole.. ( I've been known to drill holes in the wrong side of the line a few times LOL ) is the spot is still there.. just filled in and not a hole anymore.. The glue hole always ends up a shade different.. but in many cases just looks like a spot in the wood grain or a small knot or something.. so I never really thought of it as a known mistake or blemish.. just a natural wood grain color change in that small spot.. You'll want to sand it good so you'll sand most of the glue out in the surrounding areas around the blemished spot.. if possible.. I've tried a few different glues with the basic same results.. a glue just isn't going to absorb the finish in the same manor as the natural wood will.. I have very limited experience in doing this.. less than a handful of times.. There may be some special glues or methods that those Pro's use.. I'm just talking about what I have experience which isn't much. But I look forward to reading this topic as I'd like to know more secret repair methods on this glue paste repairs, LOL OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 I have found that while the process above works well to do the repair the "spot" will not take a finish like the surrounding area as the glue does not absorb like raw wood. Just wanted you to be aware. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trackman Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 I make a small puddle of shellac an mix sawdust in it. Don’t have trouble with glue spots this away. An drys fast. OCtoolguy, kmmcrafts, OzarkSawdust and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 While I've used the glue and saw dust process several times over the years (generally I wasn't happy with the results of glue/dust method). I was repairing a chair leg that a puppy couldn't resist chewing on. I decided it really needed a wood filler. I used Timbermate. This is a water based product and it's stainable. I posted a thread about it, but of course I can't locate it. It's what I use now. It's easy to work with. In my experience I've had better luck matching darker colors. I just tried filling a void on a PW project and wasn't real happy, but I didn't spend a lot of time experimenting. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Thanks ot never hearing about timbermate I went googling found this comparison https://woodworkingtoolkit.com/best-wood-fillers/ Elmers is stainable, how about that and famowood latex Edited November 17, 2019 by JimErn OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 hours ago, oldhudson said: While I've used the glue and saw dust process several times over the years (generally I wasn't happy with the results of glue/dust method). I was repairing a chair leg that a puppy couldn't resist chewing on. I decided it really needed a wood filler. I used Timbermate. This is a water based product and it's stainable. I posted a thread about it, but of course I can't locate it. It's what I use now. It's easy to work with. In my experience I've had better luck matching darker colors. I just tried filling a void on a PW project and wasn't real happy, but I didn't spend a lot of time experimenting. Timbermate is great stuff. No wood filler is perfect, but, IMHO, Timbermate is the best you can buy. Do yourself a favor and try some. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) I wonder, just for the sake of wonderment, if any of the glue mfgrs. have ever tried adding a dye to their products. If the glue I was going to use, along with my walnut sawdust, had a dark brown tint to it, that just might solve the problem. Hmmmmm! Maybe I'll experiment with some food coloring. Well, I did a google on the subject and here is an interesting video. It's from the U.K. but it shouldn't be all that much different here. Now, off to find the stuff to work with. Edited November 18, 2019 by octoolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 interesting, thanks OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, JimErn said: interesting, thanks I just found one ingredient in a small size on Amazon and one on eBay. Both are small enough that for the common user like me, it's worth the small investment. It will be interesting to try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I watched the video. Interesting but I can't hear audio. What are the ingredients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, Rockytime said: I watched the video. Interesting but I can't hear audio. What are the ingredients? Van Dyke walnut crystals and Fastform Cascamite resin powder. I found them under different names though. I didn't want to buy a 5 gallon bucket of the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Never heard of those things so will probably pursue it. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Rockytime said: Never heard of those things so will probably pursue it. Thanks for the info. Les, here's pics of what I ordered. The Cascamite is coming from somewhere either in the U.K. or Australia. Free shipping. The second is the crystals coming through Amazon. Both are small quantities so not a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Thanks Ray, I'll bookmark that. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 18 hours ago, Rockytime said: Thanks Ray, I'll bookmark that. Well, the walnut crystals arrived today. Less than 24 hours. The other stuff is coming from Canberra, way down under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 1:39 PM, Bill WIlson said: Timbermate is great stuff. No wood filler is perfect, but, IMHO, Timbermate is the best you can buy. Do yourself a favor and try some. Bill, I bought some on your suggestion. I decided I would try the natural. Used a round over bit this morning on a cherry project and the end grain tore out just a bit. I mixed a drop of cherry stain in with it and it worked great. Thanks for your suggestion. kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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