Dutchscroller Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Hi all, my old Hegner saw is retiring soon, (its an oldie, and deserves his retirement) so iam looking for a new saw. should i stick with Hegner, or go for the Pegas? I know both are good, but i need some advice. I like my Hegner, but the Pegas seems to have more options, and its mentioned alot here, so what are the pro's and cons? Thank you OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Both great saws but you are used to the Hegner. The actions of the two saws are totally different. If you buy a new Hegner with all the latest improvements and additions, you'll have a great saw and no learning curve. Of course the cost is double so there is that also. I have the Pegas type saw in it's earlier form and I love it. I also had a Hegner and had it not had a speed problem I would have kept it. I liked it also. If you are into bowl making, the Pegas has the tilting head. And fretwork is far easier with the Pegas. Lots to think about but the fact that you have become used to how the Hegner operates would be the best way to go in my opinion. For what that's worth. GrampaJim and Be_O_Be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchscroller Posted December 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Thanks for the reply, i mainly do portraits, (sometimes doing other projects) so if i may ask, what is better for that purpose? Thanks again OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Dutchscroller said: Thanks for the reply, i mainly do portraits, (sometimes doing other projects) so if i may ask, what is better for that purpose? Thanks again I've never done portraits but to me, they are like fretwork where you are constantly moving your saw blade from one hole to the next. If that is the case, the Pegas would be far faster and easier to work with. I know that Scrappile does a lot of fretwork on his saws but I'm not sure which one he uses primarily for fretwork. He has a Hegner and a Seyco. Maybe he'll answer on here when he sees this topic. For my 2 cents worth, I'd go with the Pegas. Price and ease of use would be my deciding points. But like I said, you have worked with the Hegner for many years so you are used to how it operates. Jim Finn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchscroller Posted December 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Oké thanks alot, i have some thinking to do, it wont be earlier then Januari so got Some time, thanks again OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) I will not recommend because it is personal preference, just like blades and all other things the deal with wood working. So many ways to skin a cat as they say.... I do fretwork on both my saws. The bigger pieces I usually move to the Seyco. You are choosing between two fine saws and I think you will be very happy with whichever you select. The newer Hegner may have some things you did not have on your retiring one, front tension, VS speed are two that come to mind. The Pegas has those, plus, top or bottom feed, larger table, tilting head. I don't know how old you are, but I think the Hegner will outlast the Pegas long term and require a less maintenance. But if you are senior,,, do you really need a saw that will last forever. That Pegas should last many years is taken care of. I know I would be very happy with either with the type of scroll I normally do. If I do heavy scrolling, like 3D, I use the Hegner. I. just think it is built more for hard scrolling and my Hegner has a little more clearance between the arm and table. I do not know about availability of parts for the Pegas, I have not heard anything that sounds like it would be a problem... You might look at it this way, if you can afford a Hegner, maybe it would be nice to have 2 Pegas' instead!? I love have 2 saws. Edited December 17, 2019 by Scrappile OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 I just had the same issue. My 1988 Hegner broke and I decided the repairs were too much for a 31 year old saw. I bought a new Hegner. I decided based on that I was comfortable with it and did not want to learn a new saw. I am too old for that. I cut a lot of Intarsia and thicker wood. I also have extra blade clamps, the Hegner table and a dust system for it. I hear good things about the Pegas saw but it has been out less than a year and time will tell about durability. I know my Hegner will outlast me. If you have been happy with your Hegner, why change? If you want the latest scroll saw and something different then the Pegas is for you. Both saws will do a fine job. Be_O_Be, GrampaJim and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchscroller Posted December 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Oké, thanks alot for the feedback, got alot off thinking to do :) OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgiro Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 I use an EX-21 so I'm probably biased towards the Pegas. I have used a Hegner a couple of times and it is really different from the EX-21 and the Pegas. Based on that I would say stay with Hegner. Having said that --- Woodcraft is selling the Pegas 21" saw for $750. The Hegner Mutimax V-22 goes for $1645 from Advanced Machinery - twice as much as the Pegas. Both are excellent machines for the price. But for you the Pegas would have a learning curve to it. Be_O_Be and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 The reason I would stick with Hegner is its simplicity and ease of maintenance . I'm too old to be trouble shooting. OCtoolguy, Be_O_Be and GrampaJim 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 One thing I would like to mention. Folks who own Hegner and Hawks claim how convenient it is to have extra blade clamps loaded with new blades ready to install when needed. With the EX type saws, including Pegas, DeWALT and newer Delta saws, don’t have removable clamps. So you don’t need to pre-load clamps. And nothing to drop on the floor and lose. OCtoolguy and Be_O_Be 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 My friend has a Hegner and just bought a Pegas. Her Hegner is now for sale. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 I own a three year old Hegner and a two year old Pegas. I like both saws. On large projects I like to be able to top feed with the Pegas. If I am cutting thick wood I like the Pegas. If I am doing fine intricate work I like my Hegner. My Hegner will defiantly outlast my Pegas. I would not give up either saw. If I could only keep one saw it would be the Pegas. OCtoolguy, JimErn, kmmcrafts and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchscroller Posted December 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 oke, i think a stick to Hegner, thanks alot for the feedback and advice kmmcrafts, OCtoolguy and Be_O_Be 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Dave Monk said: I own a three year old Hegner and a two year old Pegas. I like both saws. On large projects I like to be able to top feed with the Pegas. If I am cutting thick wood I like the Pegas. If I am doing fine intricate work I like my Hegner. My Hegner will defiantly outlast my Pegas. I would not give up either saw. If I could only keep one saw it would be the Pegas. That is how I feel about the Hawk vrs the Ex or DeWalt.. The Hawk seems to be easier to do fine detailed stuff.. but is much slower going that the Ex type saws.. even though I have the blade adjustment to be as close to straight up down as I can get with the Ex.. it's still not as easy to do those detailed projects.. Will always keep both style of saws around... Rolf, Dave Monk and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Roberta Moreton said: My friend has a Hegner and just bought a Pegas. Her Hegner is now for sale. How much? Will they ship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted December 18, 2019 Report Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) If I were in the market for a new saw I would buy the Pegas. Yes you are comfortable with the Hegner, which of course is an excellent saw, as is my Hawk which I will have till I can't scroll anymore. I have never liked the Hegner clamps. And on my Hawk I installed after market Delta cam action clamps Super easy and fast. But the Pegas has simpler clamps than even my Hawk, it can top and bottom feed and the big advantage that it has is that the table stays flat and the blade tilts. The Pegas kept the rack and pinion plus 90 deg pin for resetting to 90 deg. It also tilts a full 45 deg both directions if you remove the dust port under the table which I don't like on any of this style of saw. I have my own dust collection setup that I prefer. Edited December 18, 2019 by Rolf Dave Monk, kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 12/18/2019 at 1:55 PM, octoolguy said: How much? Will they ship? It’s sold. ($500) OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 I started my new Hegner today and it ran smooooooth. It cuts great and now I have to get the dust collection the way I want it. But that is a small thing. My wife wants to put a Christmas Bow on it. Rolf, Dave Monk, OCtoolguy and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Congratulations! You can scroll the bow ! meflick and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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