Permanent Patterns?

[new2woodwrk]

Just wondering if anyone uses permanent patterns?

I've been reading about them today and thought  it would be a good idea for some cuts - mostly silhouettes or limited fretwork I think?

Thoughts?

Thanks for reading.

[JimErn]

Never heard of them or the use, but at first blush, If it was permanent the only way I can see to use them is to put them on the reverse side of the piece

[new2woodwrk]

57 minutes ago, JimErn said:

Never heard of them or the use, but at first blush, If it was permanent the only way I can see to use them is to put them on the reverse side of the piece

Here's part of the article I've been reading:

 

[ike]

I have about 500  patterns  to make  a perminate pattern of each would take the rest of my life, I am 80 It is so easy to take a copy and spray glue it on wood and then remove it with meneral sperits. I do have one permanate  pattern and it is of a oven pull which I give away to women when they buy somethinf at the craft shows.

IKE

[Badgerboy]

My 88 year old Uncle-in-law, who inspired me to start scrolling, always makes a permanent pattern.  I believe part of the reason is the computer and printer perplex him at times but mostly it is out of habit.  He also taught me to use a “story stick” for my cabinet making projects.  He is a master carpenter and at 88 a bit set in his ways which is good with me.  I am using paper patterns except for one project set that I have been asked to make many copies and therefore a traceable hard pattern makes sense. I use 1/8 inch stock for these patterns. 

[kmmcrafts]

I'll stick to computer files to print on paper.. with ability to modify, resize, personalize etc etc etc... Not very practical for what i do.... I could see this for certain type of projects..but not for the things I make..

[fredfret]

I use templates for making toy cars that I donate.  I cut them from scraps so having a pattern to trace around is easier than printing one. I often cut 30 plus in a day 

[dgman]

I would have to have boxes and boxes full of templates if I did it that way. Not to mention the time it would take to make a template before cutting the project.

[kmmcrafts]

23 minutes ago, dgman said:

I would have to have boxes and boxes full of templates if I did it that way. Not to mention the time it would take to make a template before cutting the project.

Depending on how thick of wood you cut but a template could be added ( stack cut ) so after the first cut you have your template for the next time you cut..

[loftyhermes]

I have a few permanent patterns mostly made out of modern furniture drawer bottoms and cupboard backs. It's mostly 1/8" mdf or ply. I glue the paper pattern to it then fix it to the wood, generally with pins and cut it then I have my template ready for next time.

[lawson56]

I guess you can say I am close to a Permanent Pattern maker,I use Carbon paper,so my patterns do last quit some time.

[NC Scroller]

I currently have and use a couple templates.  They can be handy if you are making multiples of the same thing and they can't be stack cut. By multiple I am not talking 1 or 2.

[nrscroller]

Hi,

When I get a pattern, I make a copy and save as original and file it, then just pull that and print a copy. I file them under different artists or general or various topisc, I am 74 and has worked for years for me

Bill

[Bill WIlson]

I think templates are a viable alternative to re-printed paper patterns....in come limited circumstances.  For example, simple silhouettes & shapes can be re-produced faster by tracing around a template, but beyond that, for more detailed work, I think using a paper pattern will give you better, more accurate and consistent results.

[MrsN]

18 hours ago, Bill WIlson said:

I think templates are a viable alternative to re-printed paper patterns....in come limited circumstances.  For example, simple silhouettes & shapes can be re-produced faster by tracing around a template, but beyond that, for more detailed work, I think using a paper pattern will give you better, more accurate and consistent results.

Bill has a good point permanent patterns or templates work well for really simple designs.

[Rolf]

Templates for simple stuff yes,  for my detailed work not realistic,  too time consuming and the probability of missing a detail too high.  

[NC Scroller]

Here is a case in point.  I cut this Sue Mey design.  She has a number of overlays (love, joy, peace, faith, hope, Jesus, etc).  Since I was doing 24 crosses in total and I was using 3/4" stock for the backer stack cutting was out of the questions.  So I put the pattern one time on a piece of 1/8" hardboard, cut it out and used it to trace out all my crosses.  The 1/8" template is hanging on my shop wall with other similar templates for future use. 

 

[kmmcrafts]

Well now that I think about it I do use a template.. My bases for my clocks and other things I made templates for.. Though most are not scroll sawn.. I pretty much cut the bases on the table saw or bandsaw and then use the template to mark the rounded corners.. Typically use the disc sander to get the corners rounded off and then finish smoothing them with the hand sander... and i would do this with silhouette stuff if I was doing a lot of it..  

[jerry1939]

IF you want a template, use a thin plexiglass in a stack.  Easier to trace around.

For making paper copies of a pattern, I always cut off  a corner of the original.  That way I didn't end up making copies of copies later.

jerry

[Rolf]

That is a great suggestion

17 hours ago, jerry1939 said:

IF you want a template, use a thin plexiglass in a stack.  Easier to trace around.

For making paper copies of a pattern, I always cut off  a corner of the original.  That way I didn't end up making copies of copies later.

jerry

 

[Roberta Moreton]

To me a permanent pattern or template refers to a silhouette. 

[BadBob]

On 1/11/2020 at 8:05 PM, kmmcrafts said:

I'll stick to computer files to print on paper.. with ability to modify, resize, personalize etc etc etc... Not very practical for what i do.... I could see this for certain type of projects..but not for the things I make..

The first thing I do with a new project is what ever it takes to get it into SVG format in the computer. Using Inkscape I can print patterns any size I want with sharp clear lines.