Modern Art Studios Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've used a scroll saw in my business over 45 years. Used a Delta, plunge cut, saw for thirty plus years, then bought a 30" Excalibur. Sold the shop years ago and I'm looking for a scroll that compares to the Excalibur. I hear todays Excalibur is a knock off of the original. What would compare to what I had? Thanks, Phil. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Hi Phil. I have the 30th edition Excalibur and it has been my go to saw. Our store is a dealer for the Pegas Scroll Saw. We have one at ArtCrafters as a demo and for classes. After using the saw for several months, it is now my go to saw. I would highly recommend the Pegas Scroll Saw. OCtoolguy, tomsteve, Modern Art Studios and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I have a Pegas saw also and love it. I will also mention that @Denny Knappen has great prices and service on Pegas blades. OCtoolguy, Modern Art Studios, Scrappile and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgiro Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 The current Excalibur saw is a re-engineered model that is made in China. People who have purchased it seem to be having issues with it. The manufacturer who made the old Excalibur saws, now turns out Excalibur-type step children under different brands. There is the King brand, mostly sold in Canada, but the US Woodcraft stores sell it. Jet tools, now sells an Excalibur type, but it has some differences. Ray Seymore, of SeyCo, has his own version of the Excalibur type saw, also with differences. The one that seems to have bubbled up in quality, and seems to keep all the old Excalibur features, is the Pegas. It looks to be the current leader of the Excalibur type lines. Modern Art Studios and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I think it's the Excelsior brand that is the Excalibur/King equivalent in Canada. I think, originally there was an agreement that only the 16" and 21" version (King) would be available in the US and that the 31" saw would be sold in Canada under the Excelsior name. I'm not sure that's entirely the case anymore. Both brands may offer all sizes now, but as far as I know, King is still what is available in the USA brand and Excelsior is the same saw, sold in Canada. Modern Art Studios and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsteve Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 the seyco is a great saw,too. its pretty much the old excalibur i think with a a couple upgrades. great customer support,too. https://www.seyco.com/seyco-st-21-swing-tilt-scroll-saw/ Modern Art Studios, OCtoolguy, GrampaJim and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 I have an older excalber, and if I had to replace it today with a new saw, I would buy the pegas saw OCtoolguy, Modern Art Studios and Scrappile 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Either Pegas or Seyco would be good choices. I have dealt with Ray at Seyco and cust service is very high. As for now I am enjoying my Ex - 21 that is about 5 years old and still working perfectly. OCtoolguy, Scrappile and Modern Art Studios 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don in brooklin on Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Were are you located? It makes it easier for recommendations on were to buy stuff. I have an EX-21 which is the same as the current the current King line available at Woodcraft. Sold in Canada as Excelsior. If you are in Canada or close to the border the price in Canada is the same or cheaper than the Woodcraft price the add on 30% discount on the exchange it is a great price. One Canadian dealer has the Excelsior 16inch -$699700Cdn, 21 -$999Cdn, 30 - $1269 Love my EX-21. Nearly 10 years old and is used a lot. Modern Art Studios and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 This is EXACTLY why I posted a while back about posting your location. It's impossible to advise anybody on anything without knowing where you are. Modern Art Studios 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern Art Studios Posted January 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Thanks to all for your help. I live in Dallas so I should be able to test drive a couple of the suggested saws. Vibration and deflection are my main concerns. I used to cut out letters on the scroll and band saw. Literally, I have cut over a million letters in my career. When I got the Excalibur I could stack up to 1 3/4" without any deflection. Remarkable saw. And I could change out letters in seconds. Here is a sample of what I did. These are neither the largest or the smallest letters. scrollingforsanity and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 Since you live in Dallas, Seyco is right in the area. tomsteve, scrollingforsanity, Modern Art Studios and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgiro Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Denny Knappen said: Since you live in Dallas, Seyco is right in the area. Yeah - Ray is located out in Rockwall. He is in a little industrial park off of Mimms Rd. That's where I got my EX-21, when I was out visiting my oldest son in Garland in 2012. Modern Art Studios, OCtoolguy and tomsteve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsteve Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 im thinkin rey probably has a saw set up for a test drive. OCtoolguy and Modern Art Studios 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Modern Art Studios said: Thanks to all for your help. I live in Dallas so I should be able to test drive a couple of the suggested saws. Vibration and deflection are my main concerns. I used to cut out letters on the scroll and band saw. Literally, I have cut over a million letters in my career. When I got the Excalibur I could stack up to 1 3/4" without any deflection. Remarkable saw. And I could change out letters in seconds. Here is a sample of what I did. These are neither the largest or the smallest letters. Wow! That's all I can say. Those are some pretty impressive letters for sure. I regularly cut 1 3/4 " and have no problem with my EX21. scrollingforsanity and Modern Art Studios 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrollingforsanity Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 I have a EX21 and a Seyco. Both are great saws. My go to saw is the Seyco. If I was where I could test drive a Pegas I sure would give that saw a try. Have heard nothing bad about it yet. Good luck on your decision. OCtoolguy and Modern Art Studios 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Modern Art Studios said: Thanks to all for your help. I live in Dallas so I should be able to test drive a couple of the suggested saws. Vibration and deflection are my main concerns. I used to cut out letters on the scroll and band saw. Literally, I have cut over a million letters in my career. When I got the Excalibur I could stack up to 1 3/4" without any deflection. Remarkable saw. And I could change out letters in seconds. Here is a sample of what I did. These are neither the largest or the smallest letters. I live in Justin. Probably about an hour from you depending on what part of the city you live in. I have a Hegner and Pegas that you are welcome to test drive. OCtoolguy, meflick and Modern Art Studios 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleguy Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 I am interested in this post as well -Im a bit worried about my old Eclipse saws -they have been around for alot of years and are impossible to get parts for the last time i sent one out to a machine shop it cost me about 1/2 what one new would of been if they were still made -and it was gone for almost 3 months -which is crazy considering something as a back -up saw---- . OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted January 27, 2020 Report Share Posted January 27, 2020 If I was going to buy a new saw it would be the Pegas. I have seen it in action and took a test drive. Wonderful saw! OCtoolguy, Modern Art Studios and Puzzleguy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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