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1 hour ago, Heli_av8tor said:

Ray,

Anxiously awaiting your report. I saw this one but decided to order the one pictured in the beginning of this topic for the larger hose size. 

Thinking this small one might work better with a mini shop vac for the scroll saw. 

I like that the majority of it fits inside the bucket.

Tom

That's what I saw too. I'm thinking of mounting it in a small wood box with a trap door on the bottom side to empty it. That would give it some weight. It really looks like a great design.

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31 minutes ago, Rockytime said:

 just ordered it.I have a couple of Oreck mini vacuums and a couple of other mini vacuums that I think will work. Looks like mounting tabs at the top so the major part of the unit could set inside the receptacle instead of on the top. Would be very compact.

Then you get to be OUR guinea pig. Be sure to let us know how it works etc.

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14 hours ago, Rockytime said:

My idea is to attach it to an Ice tea type jar that can just be unscrewed from the lid. I have old C-Pap hoses that may also work.

I think something that can be weighted down in some way would be better. I've got a mental picture of what I might make if the cyclone works out. I can't wait to hear from you. What is the time frame?

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30 minutes ago, octoolguy said:

No sooner said.....

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Nice looking unit.. I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on the noise and also wondered about the hose size.. as well as suction power... I'm thinking I'm going to be buying a couple of these and building my own system.. one for the Hawks and one for the EX.. The Hawks all set next to each other so I'm thinking putting it in between and hosing to which ever saw I'm running.. The EX will be isolated in a isolation room.. ( came from China 😂 ) 

Also just wanted to let you know that your calendar looks a bit outdated.. I see it says Feb. 2019.. 

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this unit.. I almost just bought one the other day.. thought I'd wait to hear what you had to say..  

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2 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

Nice looking unit.. I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on the noise and also wondered about the hose size.. as well as suction power... I'm thinking I'm going to be buying a couple of these and building my own system.. one for the Hawks and one for the EX.. The Hawks all set next to each other so I'm thinking putting it in between and hosing to which ever saw I'm running.. The EX will be isolated in a isolation room.. ( came from China 😂 ) 

Also just wanted to let you know that your calendar looks a bit outdated.. I see it says Feb. 2019.. 

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this unit.. I almost just bought one the other day.. thought I'd wait to hear what you had to say..  

Yeah, I'm still living in 2019 before the huge market crash. It's more for notes than anything else. I have my Ronald Reagan Ranch calendar up on the wall for keeping track of the days. I donated once and now they send me a calendar every year. Lucky me.

 

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23 hours ago, Rockytime said:

Cute little bugger. What size hose des it use?

Les, the attachments all measure at their extreme opening of 1 1/4" and taper down internally. The snout on the end of the vac measures 1 3/16" and the inside of it is 1 1/8". I scrounged a hose out of our dumpster that was part of an upholstery cleaner of something of that order. It will fit perfectly. I'm going to build a new stand for the little EX 16 that I just bought and put this vac underneath the table top with that tiny little cyclone that you ordered. I'm really anxious to see what you think of it. It's going to be a neat setup and totally portable. That little saw is going to be the one I roll out to my driveway during the summer months. 

 

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23 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Nice looking unit.. I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on the noise and also wondered about the hose size.. as well as suction power... I'm thinking I'm going to be buying a couple of these and building my own system.. one for the Hawks and one for the EX.. The Hawks all set next to each other so I'm thinking putting it in between and hosing to which ever saw I'm running.. The EX will be isolated in a isolation room.. ( came from China 😂 ) 

Also just wanted to let you know that your calendar looks a bit outdated.. I see it says Feb. 2019.. 

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this unit.. I almost just bought one the other day.. thought I'd wait to hear what you had to say..  

Ok Kevin, I got a chance to go out and do some testing with it and let me tell you, that thing sucks. It is very powerful. The downside is, it's a bit noisy. I closed up by shop so there were no noises and opened the app on my phone. The app showed that dead still in my shop, it still registered 27-30 db. Not sure why. Anyway, I fired the vac up and it jumped up to between 78 and 82 db. Fairly loud. But, I figure once I get it installed in some sort of enclosure under my saw, it will be a lot quieter. And it also makes a lot of noise at the hose end. I messed with it to see how well it did in sweeping my shop floor. There was a bit of sawdust on the floor for the other day when I was working. It did a bang up job. So, for me, I think it's well worth what I paid for it. Shipping was free so with the sales tax it came out to $63 and change. If I buy that cyclone unit that Les is getting, I'll have about $85 in the whole thing. I'm really excited to get it all installed.

 

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Thanks Ray for doing the test etc and reporting back your thoughts.. 

When I used the app on my phone and the shop is shut with nothing running it also shows about the same.. and I was thinking that my big old shop vac registered around 89 db.. I may do the test again.. This is the same as Seyco's vac and they claim 62 db.. now I do realize the app is probably not going to be super accurate.. But I've also heard others say the thing is a little on the noisy side.. 

Aside from noise my bigger concern was how much power can this little thing make.. The  Seyco only has a bottom collection.. I'd like to rig it up with a split system and collect from the top side as well so I wondered if this would have the power to do so.. Sounds like it'd work good..    

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8 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Thanks Ray for doing the test etc and reporting back your thoughts.. 

When I used the app on my phone and the shop is shut with nothing running it also shows about the same.. and I was thinking that my big old shop vac registered around 89 db.. I may do the test again.. This is the same as Seyco's vac and they claim 62 db.. now I do realize the app is probably not going to be super accurate.. But I've also heard others say the thing is a little on the noisy side.. 

Aside from noise my bigger concern was how much power can this little thing make.. The  Seyco only has a bottom collection.. I'd like to rig it up with a split system and collect from the top side as well so I wondered if this would have the power to do so.. Sounds like it'd work good..    

I think it has enough. I'm going to adapt from 1 1/8" outlet at vac down to 1" pvc through the hose I have to 3/4" pvc to the 3/4" LocLine flex. I'm hoping that it won't whistle. If it does I'll find a fix of some sort. Suction wise, I think it has plenty.

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On 2/26/2020 at 9:00 AM, Scrappile said:

I'm just curious, what it the reason to run two (or more) in series?  Just so maybe you don't have to empty the bucket as often?  I have an old Dust Deputy, and unlike in the picture on this Ebay add, I had to anchor the bucket pretty well.  They are very top heavy.  I couldn't just set it on the floor and turn the vac on.  It would immediately tip over. 

The thought is that whatever escapes the first separator will be caught by the second.  

 

On 2/27/2020 at 9:28 PM, Rockytime said:

My idea is to attach it to an Ice tea type jar that can just be unscrewed from the lid. I have old C-Pap hoses that may also work.

The base for the Dust Deputy is just a little to big to fit on the lid of a 1/2 gallon glass jar.  I had to turn a wood adapter on the lathe to mount it to the jar.  

 

I've been eyeing those Metrovacs.  I'm not sure its any better than what I have at the moment if I can get a cart built for my mess anyway.  Definitely would be multipurpose.  Not sure how I feel about vac bags again though.  

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23 minutes ago, rash_powder said:

The thought is that whatever escapes the first separator will be caught by the second.  

 

The base for the Dust Deputy is just a little to big to fit on the lid of a 1/2 gallon glass jar.  I had to turn a wood adapter on the lathe to mount it to the jar.  

 

I've been eyeing those Metrovacs.  I'm not sure its any better than what I have at the moment if I can get a cart built for my mess anyway.  Definitely would be multipurpose.  Not sure how I feel about vac bags again though.  

Well, the MetroVac comes with 2 bags. I don't anticipate having to use many of them as most of the dust/debris will go through the cyclone into the receptable that it sits on. I'll try to post some pics when I get mine all together.

 

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3 hours ago, djcarm said:

I have a Mini Cyclone that I purchased from Amazon. I don't know the name of it, the only writing on it is Chinese.  I have it dedicated to my scroll saw and it works great.  I have not had to clean the little vacuum I have attached to it yet.

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That looke like a full-sized DD to me. Or as big as one. Are those 5 gallon buckets that it's sitting on?

 

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I have the seyco system on my 21 inch Excalibur scroll saw.  Works good for dust that fall through the throat.  I still had a lot of dust on the top of the table that eventually ended on the floor or my lap. I modified the collector by tapping into the suction hose with a pvc tee. Then I added an extended table around the scroll saw's  that catches dust swept of the scroll saw's table. I attached the new hose from the tee to my extended table and it catches/sucks the topside dust away. An added benefit might be that it also might suck in some the super fine dust in the air.

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