Question for seyco scroll saw dust collector owners

[Wilson142]

Have any of you Seyco Dust Collector owners found a good way for upper table dust removal? Where are you attaching the extra hose? I have been looking for a Y attachment adapter to use on the cyclone pickup end with little success  locally and I'm not opposed to drilling a hole in the collector but thought I'd ask before I do.

     I'm thinking of adding a diy muffler to the vac because it is a bit louder than I'd like. I have the Dewalt and found by adding 3 small rectangular magnets to the table underside (because the bottom isn't totally flat) gives me more "sticking action" and because they are around 1/4" thick, they bring the nozzle more inline with the blade. Seems to do a fine job of removal on the bottom side so far.

 

Mike

[kmmcrafts]

Seems like you could put some sort of T or Y in this from the plumbing department of a hardware store.. The PVC stuff.. seems like you should be able to come up with something without cutting the hose.. May need to clamp a rubber sleeve / boot to the PVC etc in some way but I'd try doing it without cutting into the hose..

I've heard several claim this vac is louder than expected.. I wonder how they came up with their "quiet vac that runs at only 62 db " data that is advertised on their website.. 62 db from 10 ft away? I mean... people are mounting this system up to the saw stand.. so in my mind it should be 62 db at the front of the saw where the operator would be... 

[barb.j.enders]

1 hour ago, Wilson142 said:

Have any of you Seyco Dust Collector owners found a good way for upper table dust removal? Where are you attaching the extra hose? I have been looking for a Y attachment adapter to use on the cyclone pickup end with little success  locally and I'm not opposed to drilling a hole in the collector but thought I'd ask before I do.

     I'm thinking of adding a diy muffler to the vac because it is a bit louder than I'd like. I have the Dewalt and found by adding 3 small rectangular magnets to the table underside (because the bottom isn't totally flat) gives me more "sticking action" and because they are around 1/4" thick, they bring the nozzle more inline with the blade. Seems to do a fine job of removal on the bottom side so far.

 

Mike

Mike, 

Can you show a picture of how you mount the underside.  I just bought the Seyco dust collector and still haven't used it much, but know that something has to change for it to be more stable. 

Barb

[Rolf]

Like Kevin said, lots of ways to split the line. A simple T with three barbed fittings.

Even with my Festool vac  running at its lowest speed the biggest noise I get is at the nozzles themselves.  Especially now that I put a new bag in my vac. 

So my point, even if you get the vacuum real quiet the main noise will be right in front of your face at the nozzle or hose end.

[Wilson142]

24 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

Seems like you could put some sort of T or Y in this from the plumbing department of a hardware store.. The PVC stuff.. seems like you should be able to come up with something without cutting the hose.. May need to clamp a rubber sleeve / boot to the PVC etc in some way but I'd try doing it without cutting into the hose..

I've heard several claim this vac is louder than expected.. I wonder how they came up with their "quiet vac that runs at only 62 db " data that is advertised on their website.. 62 db from 10 ft away? I mean... people are mounting this system up to the saw stand.. so in my mind it should be 62 db at the front of the saw where the operator would be... 

Yeah, I'm searching for a Y locally because then I know it will fit, I've seen some that look like they'd work but they are in boat supply places for bilge  or water removal purposes (I think). Not many boat supply stores here in the desert. I won't cut into the hose because it's too thin for my comfort. I may tap into the cyclone tube itself just ahead of the existing tube. I think I can safely go 3/4". I plan to run sched. 40 pvc to the saw and I ordered 3/4" Loc-Line with nozzle for the side opposite the Dewalt blower. I did see a setup online that worked good enough to not even use the bellows blower but I like the idea of having the option to use both.

     The vac is louder than I hoped but it is 4" diameter (give or take) and I'm going to try putting a 4" pvc elbow over the exhaust end, run approx. 22" to the floor with straight pc  add another elbow and a short straight pc that will run along the floor and away from the front of the saw. then I'm going to play with some baffle type material for sound deadening without restricting the exhaust flow. I don't want to put it in a cabinet due to size restrictions and heat build up.Pvc is cheap and easy to work with so if it's a failure no big deal.

[Wilson142]

3 minutes ago, Rolf said:

Like Kevin said, lots of ways to split the line. A simple T with three barbed fittings.

Even with my Festool vac  running at its lowest speed the biggest noise I get is at the nozzles themselves.  Especially now that I put a new bag in my vac. 

So my point, even if you get the vacuum real quiet the main noise will be right in front of your face at the nozzle or hose end.

Actually with this setup the most noise I get is from the exhaust end of the vac. The pickup for the bottom seems quiet enough and I did stick a 1/2" od vinyl hose in the hole in the hose tube (I think it's there so you can adjust the vac suction because it has a collar that turns to open or close) and placed it opposite the blower. It worked to a point but not as much suction as I'd like. Not looking for silent run (would be nice) but 50% reduction would be great. I may be dreaming. lol

[Wilson142]

52 minutes ago, barb.j.enders said:

Mike, 

Can you show a picture of how you mount the underside.  I just bought the Seyco dust collector and still haven't used it much, but know that something has to change for it to be more stable. 

Barb

I had several magnets laying around that I bought at the local hardware store. They were very inexpensive and have really good holding power. They are approximately 1/4" x 1/2" x 2".

At any rate I was able to place 3 side by side in one of those little sort of pie shaped spots under the table. That raised the hose nozzle slightly above those little cross bridges on the table. I did have to use a small wire to place around the hose and tied it off on the curved angle gauge for tilting the table. The wire is easy to unhook but I needed it because when I bumped the hose it would want to sort of swivel around. After that, the bottom pickup worked like a charm! It caught easily 90% of the saw dust.

I'll post a picture later if you still need help. I have to admit, I was disappointed in the noise level and the fact that the hose/magnet setup was designed for a totally flat table but after the magnets and the little wire, I'm pretty impressed. 

[OCtoolguy]

7 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Seems like you could put some sort of T or Y in this from the plumbing department of a hardware store.. The PVC stuff.. seems like you should be able to come up with something without cutting the hose.. May need to clamp a rubber sleeve / boot to the PVC etc in some way but I'd try doing it without cutting into the hose..

I've heard several claim this vac is louder than expected.. I wonder how they came up with their "quiet vac that runs at only 62 db " data that is advertised on their website.. 62 db from 10 ft away? I mean... people are mounting this system up to the saw stand.. so in my mind it should be 62 db at the front of the saw where the operator would be... 

Don't believe everything you read Kevin.

 

[OCtoolguy]

6 hours ago, Wilson142 said:

Yeah, I'm searching for a Y locally because then I know it will fit, I've seen some that look like they'd work but they are in boat supply places for bilge  or water removal purposes (I think). Not many boat supply stores here in the desert. I won't cut into the hose because it's too thin for my comfort. I may tap into the cyclone tube itself just ahead of the existing tube. I think I can safely go 3/4". I plan to run sched. 40 pvc to the saw and I ordered 3/4" Loc-Line with nozzle for the side opposite the Dewalt blower. I did see a setup online that worked good enough to not even use the bellows blower but I like the idea of having the option to use both.

     The vac is louder than I hoped but it is 4" diameter (give or take) and I'm going to try putting a 4" pvc elbow over the exhaust end, run approx. 22" to the floor with straight pc  add another elbow and a short straight pc that will run along the floor and away from the front of the saw. then I'm going to play with some baffle type material for sound deadening without restricting the exhaust flow. I don't want to put it in a cabinet due to size restrictions and heat build up.Pvc is cheap and easy to work with so if it's a failure no big deal.

Have you checked out the offerings from LocLine? I think there is a 3/4" "Y" advertised if I recall.

 

[Wilson142]

1 hour ago, octoolguy said:

Have you checked out the offerings from LocLine? I think there is a 3/4" "Y" advertised if I recall.

 

. I know they have 3/4" Y's but I want to split it at the port that goes from the cyclone to the underside of the table. That is quite large, maybe 11/2" or so. I have no need to split the LocLine. I need a way to add a 3/4" to the larger port. Say a Y with a base large enough to fit the cyclone and one leg the size of the existing hose and the other leg a size I can reduce for the top collection tube.

[OCtoolguy]

39 minutes ago, Wilson142 said:

. I know they have 3/4" Y's but I want to split it at the port that goes from the cyclone to the underside of the table. That is quite large, maybe 11/2" or so. I have no need to split the LocLine. I need a way to add a 3/4" to the larger port. Say a Y with a base large enough to fit the cyclone and one leg the size of the existing hose and the other leg a size I can reduce for the top collection tube.

I understand what you are saying. I might think about coming out of the cyclone a ways and then necking it down to a Y fitting and go from there. Two schools of thought and without seeing your setup, tough to visualize. 

[kmmcrafts]

Something else that might be easier than routing hose clear to the other side of the table.. I think you can take the bellows cover off and turn it around the saws air blower tubing blows from the opposite side.. I'm not certain this can be done on all saws.. I didn't re-read to see what saw you are using... but many saws can have the blower blow from either side.. 

I thought about this as my Hawks blow from the right side and blow the dust to the left side.. but the EX blow to the right side.. Not a big deal but if i was to build a manifold and dust collection system for my saws.. I'd want them to be able to move the manifold from one saw to the next.. which wouldn't work unless I change the bellows plate..

My thought was for the collection from the top side was to use a larger mouth Vac fitting o suck the dust that the blower blows to the side.. I know with my box fan set up at table height the box fan filter gets a lot of the dust from the top side.. so I would think a vac and with help of the blower blowing toward that vac it'd get most all of the dust from the top..  

[Sycamore67]

There are several on here who have both top and bottom dust collection.  I am not using the Seyco but not certain if it makes a difference.  I just made a Tee with PVC fitting.  There are all kinds of fittings so you can make it to fit your needs.

 

[OCtoolguy]

I just ran across this little video and thought of the 2 or 3 ongoing topics we have here on SSV.