Shipping labels for Attaching patterns

[scrollingforsanity]

This subject has come up before. The most recent was a few weeks ago by Kevin at KM Crafts. For some reason this time it got my attention. I am tired of spray adhesive. I ordered a 100 full sheets of self adhesive shipping labels from Amazon. I was cutting puzzles out of poplar so I printed up a batch of patterns. Sanded my boards, applied clear shelf liner ( I have been using the shelf liner for a couple years ) applied my patterns ( no messy spray adhesive ) and started cutting. Worked pretty good, I still had an occasional pattern lift as usual. The most thing I noticed was that after handling my pieces while cutting that the lines got dimmer and dimmer. the ink was disappearing. It wasn't on my fingers and it wasn't smudged on the pattern. Maybe it was the cheap ink I am using in my laser printer? Here's my fix. I wanted some thin cheap packing tape so with the pandemic going on instead of driving to the Dollar store I got on Ebay and got 18 rolls for $ 13.56.just what I wanted.  Should last me a while. I bought a 4in. hard rubber roller from Hobby Lobby for $4.99, found out why it was so cheap the first time I used it the ends came out of the roller. A couple dabs of 5 minute epoxy and back in business. Now I am using Baltic birch for ornament's. I lightly sand the wood with 220 grit, wipe off the dust, apply the clear shelf liner and give it a quick roll with my new roller, lay out my patterns and attach them, give them a quick roll, apply my thin packing tape over the patterns and give that a pretty good roll. Sounds like it takes a long time but doesn't. I use a 18 gauge nailer to hold my projects together while cutting, that was my next step. Drilled all my entry holes and went to cutting. I have cut over 50 stacks in the last few day's and not one lifting issue. Lines are all clear and a great cutting experience. Just like the old days when I used to glue the pattern directly to the wood, except now there is no messy mineral spirits to deal with. Did I mention no messy or smelly spray adhesive. It might be the packing tape giving a little lubrication or it's my imagination but my blades seem to last just a bit longer as well. I haven't tried any large projects but think this would work well. I am cutting some pretty intricate ornaments and not once did any part of the pattern lift, not even the outside edges. this won't be for everyone but if you are having pattern lifting issues it's worth a try. I think the roller really helps, I can tell the difference on how well the shelf liner sticks to the wood compared to not rolling. A big difference. I don't believe this is much more expensive if any than the spray glue. If it is well worth it to me. Sorry for the long story.  Thanks Kevin for writing about the shipping labels they work great. I just ordered and received a 1000. 

[OCtoolguy]

49 minutes ago, scrollingforsanity said:

This subject has come up before. The most recent was a few weeks ago by Kevin at KM Crafts. For some reason this time it got my attention. I am tired of spray adhesive. I ordered a 100 full sheets of self adhesive shipping labels from Amazon. I was cutting puzzles out of poplar so I printed up a batch of patterns. Sanded my boards, applied clear shelf liner ( I have been using the shelf liner for a couple years ) applied my patterns ( no messy spray adhesive ) and started cutting. Worked pretty good, I still had an occasional pattern lift as usual. The most thing I noticed was that after handling my pieces while cutting that the lines got dimmer and dimmer. the ink was disappearing. It wasn't on my fingers and it wasn't smudged on the pattern. Maybe it was the cheap ink I am using in my laser printer? Here's my fix. I wanted some thin cheap packing tape so with the pandemic going on instead of driving to the Dollar store I got on Ebay and got 18 rolls for $ 13.56.just what I wanted.  Should last me a while. I bought a 4in. hard rubber roller from Hobby Lobby for $4.99, found out why it was so cheap the first time I used it the ends came out of the roller. A couple dabs of 5 minute epoxy and back in business. Now I am using Baltic birch for ornament's. I lightly sand the wood with 220 grit, wipe off the dust, apply the clear shelf liner and give it a quick roll with my new roller, lay out my patterns and attach them, give them a quick roll, apply my thin packing tape over the patterns and give that a pretty good roll. Sounds like it takes a long time but doesn't. I use a 18 gauge nailer to hold my projects together while cutting, that was my next step. Drilled all my entry holes and went to cutting. I have cut over 50 stacks in the last few day's and not one lifting issue. Lines are all clear and a great cutting experience. Just like the old days when I used to glue the pattern directly to the wood, except now there is no messy mineral spirits to deal with. Did I mention no messy or smelly spray adhesive. It might be the packing tape giving a little lubrication or it's my imagination but my blades seem to last just a bit longer as well. I haven't tried any large projects but think this would work well. I am cutting some pretty intricate ornaments and not once did any part of the pattern lift, not even the outside edges. this won't be for everyone but if you are having pattern lifting issues it's worth a try. I think the roller really helps, I can tell the difference on how well the shelf liner sticks to the wood compared to not rolling. A big difference. I don't believe this is much more expensive if any than the spray glue. If it is well worth it to me. Sorry for the long story.  Thanks Kevin for writing about the shipping labels they work great. I just ordered and received a 1000. 

Thanks for the great update. I also use the shipping labels. I use either the shelf liner or blue tape but once the shipping label is on I put a covering of the clear tape. I like this process and it works well. I don't do much stack cutting but I will in the future.

 

[scrollingforsanity]

I though t you used the shipping labels as well Ray but I couldn't remember, didn't want to throw your name out and be wrong.  

[OCtoolguy]

2 minutes ago, scrollingforsanity said:

I though t you used the shipping labels as well Ray but I couldn't remember, didn't want to throw your name out and be wrong.  

Kevin put me onto them a couple of years back. My biggest problem is that I'm truly a miser and I tend to keep all the little scraps of the labels when I cut them out. I hate to waste them so I have a stack of them but never seem to have one big enough for what I need.

 

[scrollingforsanity]

There are some nice pieces that go to waste but like you say they are never big enough. I wished I would have read more closely before on the use of the shipping labels. I am from MO. the show mw state so it takes me a while to catch on. I wasn't very bright when I first read about using them, I was think of full pages of address labels and could not figure out how you guy's were using those . Lol  Ebay has some great deals on half page shipping labels but I figured I wouldn't get my pattern in the right spot. 

[kmmcrafts]

Glad to see others like using the shipping labels.. I've been using them for around 10 years now and not ever had any issues with them.. Other than at first when i thought maybe I could stick them directly to the wood.. if you do that.. it's hit or miss.. sometimes they'll peel right off and other times they are stuck for good, LOL

Many times I cut a full sheet into a half sheet..

13 hours ago, scrollingforsanity said:

There are some nice pieces that go to waste but like you say they are never big enough. I wished I would have read more closely before on the use of the shipping labels. I am from MO. the show mw state so it takes me a while to catch on. I wasn't very bright when I first read about using them, I was think of full pages of address labels and could not figure out how you guy's were using those . Lol  Ebay has some great deals on half page shipping labels but I figured I wouldn't get my pattern in the right spot. 

 

Grizz, You mentioned doing ornaments.. If you get a ornament that is in the center of the page when printing.. I found that if I crop the ornament down to almost to the edges of the ornament then save a copy.. Go to the saved copy location on your computer.. but do not open it up.. instead right click it.. select print... a window should open up with "photo printing options" and it will give you photo size options to print from.. I select the size 3.5 x 5.. select fit to frame box at bottom.. then you can select up to 4 prints.. this will print this pattern 4 times on the one full sheet.. or cut sheets in half and select 2 prints then you're not wasting a full sheet for 1 ornament..  I'm running windows 10 so if you're using a different system then this may not work.. I also use this to resize things.. for instance.. Iggy's animal puzzle patterns.. I will select 5 x 7 prints and many times it prints out at a ornament type size for making them into ornaments instead of puzzles.. Hope this helps you save some papers.. and gives you more ornament designs to work with..  

Enjoy making sawdust,

Now I gotta get to work.. must be everyone on lock down from this virus deal is shopping... I'm sorta busy for this time of year..

[scrollingforsanity]

That's great you are busy. I am busy but just making stuff, not selling anything right now. Thanks for the tips on printing. I am running windows 10 and I am poor at running my computer. I will give this a try.  We might be breathing a little sawdust in the shop but that's much better than going to the store and breathing all those virus germs. stay safe and keep making sawdust.

[new2woodwrk]

Anyone have a link to these shipping labels?

Are they just plain old labels like these:

https://smile.amazon.com/8-5-5-5-Shipping-Labels-Printer/dp/B001QT0NY2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=shipping+labels&qid=1585251088&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzREVQRDVBSTVPWlJJJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjE1NjY1UDU3MlFYU0xUR1NWJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5NTE2NDM1RUlVN0cwSE43UFYmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, new2woodwrk said:

Anyone have a link to these shipping labels?

Are they just plain old labels like these:

https://smile.amazon.com/8-5-5-5-Shipping-Labels-Printer/dp/B001QT0NY2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=shipping+labels&qid=1585251088&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzREVQRDVBSTVPWlJJJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjE1NjY1UDU3MlFYU0xUR1NWJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5NTE2NDM1RUlVN0cwSE43UFYmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

No those are half sheets.. I use full sheets.. when searching use the words full sheet shipping labels or 8.5 x 11 shipping labels.. make sure you're getting self adhesive too as well as it saying peel and stick.. easier to peel also if you get them that are cut or scored on the back.. 

These are what I order but most of you could probably get away easily with 100 - 200 sheets and last for a long time.. I order 1000 sheets at a time.. typically anyway as the larger quantity also gets a lower cost per sheet too. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Shipping-Labels-Full-Sheet-8-5x11-Self-Adhesive-PACKZON/172818314778?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Edit to add: I always used these to print my mailing labels too so that is another reason to order in bulk.. However last year I bought a thermal label printer so I no longer use these full sheets for the actual intended use ( labels ).. I may scale back to ordering them 500 at a time.. Just think about how many projects you cut and how many sheets of paper you use.. order accordingly.. or do a small order to be sure you like doing this in this way.. Used as shipping labels I always cut them in half.. as a standard shipping label size is typically 4 x 6.. so in this case there is two labels per sheet.. I mail out around 400 - 500 packages a year.. a 1000 labels usually got me through a year.. But now I use the new thermal label printer.. 500 sheets is probably get me through a year..   

Edited March 26, 2020 by kmmcrafts

[scrollingforsanity]

I went a little cheaper than Kevin. I got mine off Ebay 1000 sheets for $ 53. 35 delivered. They are not scored on the back but have a small edge around the outside to peel from. They seem to work fine so far. I would post the Ebay website but am not smart enough to get it on here. I used to be able to copy and paste but forgot how I did it. As Kevin said 100 or 200 sheets will probably last most people a long time. I just got that many because I use quite a few and they were much cheaper.

[OCtoolguy]

2 hours ago, scrollingforsanity said:

I went a little cheaper than Kevin. I got mine off Ebay 1000 sheets for $ 53. 35 delivered. They are not scored on the back but have a small edge around the outside to peel from. They seem to work fine so far. I would post the Ebay website but am not smart enough to get it on here. I used to be able to copy and paste but forgot how I did it. As Kevin said 100 or 200 sheets will probably last most people a long time. I just got that many because I use quite a few and they were much cheaper.

Just go to wherever you found the labels, highlight the address bar so that the whole site address is highlighted, right click on it and choose copy. Then go wherever you want to put it and right click again and hit paste. Nothing to it.

 

[scrollingforsanity]

I will try that Ray Thank you. I not good on this darn computer. It frustrates me

[scrollingforsanity]

 This isn't the exact ones I bought but they look identical. These are about $.60 more.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-8-5x11-Full-Sheet-Shipping-Mailing-Address-Label-Self-Adhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-8-5x11-Full-Sheet-Shipping-Mailing-Address-Label-Self-Adhesive-Laser-InkJet/254057132996?hash=item3b26fc33c4:g:coMAAOSw851cM31xhesive-Laser-InkJet/254057132996?hash=item3b26fc33c4:g:coMAAOSw851cM31x

[scrollingforsanity]

That didn't work. I will keep trying Sorry

[OCtoolguy]

5 minutes ago, scrollingforsanity said:

That didn't work. I will keep trying Sorry

Did you go up to the top of the browser window where the website address is located. The one that shows where you are at that point in time? Should work as a clickable link. Are you on your phone or a pc? 

Edited March 27, 2020 by octoolguy

[scrollingforsanity]

on my PC Ray. I just tried that but I am still being dumb!  going back to try again. 

[scrollingforsanity]

Trying this site from Amazon  Hey I finally got one to copy and paste

 

https://www.amazon.com/Buhbo-Address-Shipping-Sticker-Printers/dp/B07Y5SLPTH/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=1MKJ18A2CQFL3&dchild=1&keywords=full+sheet+shipping+labels+white&qid=1585276690&sprefix=%2Caps%2C243&sr=8-3-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1c1MjNTQVNINkhCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjMzNTM2MktZV1VKQTdKVkoyWSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODkzOTk2M1RaUUVUUURPOUlXUiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2020 by scrollingforsanity
just practicing

[scrollingforsanity]

  Maybe this one worked

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Shipping-Labels-8-5x11-Full-Sheet-Self-Adhesive-Blank-Paper-Laser-Inkjet-US/123645997819?hash=item1cc9e032fb:g:4yIAAOSwS3NcZaTw

Edited March 27, 2020 by scrollingforsanity

[OCtoolguy]

3 hours ago, scrollingforsanity said:

Trying this site from Amazon  Hey I finally got one to copy and paste

 

https://www.amazon.com/Buhbo-Address-Shipping-Sticker-Printers/dp/B07Y5SLPTH/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?crid=1MKJ18A2CQFL3&dchild=1&keywords=full+sheet+shipping+labels+white&qid=1585276690&sprefix=%2Caps%2C243&sr=8-3-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1c1MjNTQVNINkhCJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjMzNTM2MktZV1VKQTdKVkoyWSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODkzOTk2M1RaUUVUUURPOUlXUiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

 

 

 

I knew you could do it!

[OCtoolguy]

I think when I bought 100 I paid about $8 plus tax. Free shipping but that was 2 years ago. 

[new2woodwrk]

8 hours ago, scrollingforsanity said:

 This isn't the exact ones I bought but they look identical. These are about $.60 more.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-8-5x11-Full-Sheet-Shipping-Mailing-Address-Label-Self-Adhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-8-5x11-Full-Sheet-Shipping-Mailing-Address-Label-Self-Adhesive-Laser-InkJet/254057132996?hash=item3b26fc33c4:g:coMAAOSw851cM31xhesive-Laser-InkJet/254057132996?hash=item3b26fc33c4:g:coMAAOSw851cM31x

Thanks - I got this one to work just fine.

 

[new2woodwrk]

So, if I understand how this works...

You guys use the shipping labels instead of the spray adhesive?

Print pattern on shipping label, prepare wood, put shelf liner on wood, put shipping label pattern on shelf paper and cut.

And the OP adds a layer of shipping tape before cutting.

Correct?

Thanks in advance

[jerrye]

On 3/25/2020 at 7:01 PM, scrollingforsanity said:

Sorry for the long story.

It helps a lot in reading long stories to break them up into paragraphs instead of having one long paragraph. When posting here all you need do is press "Enter" to move to a new paragraph or line

like this.

Nothing at all wrong with long stories. As a pastor, I do them all the time!

[kmmcrafts]

4 hours ago, new2woodwrk said:

So, if I understand how this works...

You guys use the shipping labels instead of the spray adhesive?

Print pattern on shipping label, prepare wood, put shelf liner on wood, put shipping label pattern on shelf paper and cut.

And the OP adds a layer of shipping tape before cutting.

Correct?

Thanks in advance

Yes that is what they're doing... I skip the tape layer.. I don't like tape on top of a pattern as for me it seems to put a line of sawdust in front of my line or something.. and makes the line harder to see " for me"  Maybe my style of cutting or the blades I use... not sure... but I just don't like tape on top.. so I avoid it when I can.. there are times I need it for strength or something but for the most part I don't use tape.. 

[scrollingforsanity]

I think they have gone up a bit Ray but if you shop Ebay there are still some good deals and free shipping.  Kevin I did notice on a couple stacks that there was a sawdust line. All I n all it worked great for me. I may try again without the tape, but I have a lot of stacks already taped and ready to cut. Will have to cut them first. Lol. Thanks again guy's for all the info and help