Seyco Dust Collection System Yay!!

[kmmcrafts]

Well when I ordered the parts from Seyco to rebuild my saw I also ordered the small dust vac system..... I got it all hooked up to the EX after the rebuild.. have run about 3 hours of cutting time on it and it sure is nice not having a pile of sawdust in my lap, shoes, and all over the floor.. I do still get a slight amount that is from the top side of the table... certainly need a collection hose from the top but for now this is 90% better than with nothing at all, LOL.. 

I had purchased just the Vac and the C-pap hose with a mini cyclone dust separator as well... in fact before I ordered the Seyco system.. but I have yet to receive the dust separator... believe it's coming from China as Amazons shipping said ship by Sept 10th or something around that time.. That system was way cheaper at about $60.. because I found a new open box vac for $28, C-pap hose at $6 and the mini cyclone was around $25 for the aluminum one..  I'll hook this one up to one of the Hawk saws once the cyclone shows up..

I cut one stack of 5 Christmas ornaments from BB ply and then cut two of these clocks.. The photo shows the amount of sawdust in the canister..

 

Virtually no dust in the Vac filter!!   

Edited July 22, 2020 by kmmcrafts

[OCtoolguy]

Well, it looks like you will be pleasantly surprised once you get the other system set up and working. I have used mine a tiny bit just to see how well it was going to work before I started actually building it into my saw stand. I love it. And with that orange juice bottle muffler, it's very quiet.

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by octoolguy

[Rockytime]

I have two of the mini cyclones, plastic and metal. I use cpap hose. my only problem is when cutting out small pieces they are often sucked up along with the saw dust. Talk about effective! 

[kmmcrafts]

44 minutes ago, octoolguy said:

Well, it looks like you will be pleasantly surprised once you get the other system set up and working. I have used mine a tiny bit just to see how well it was going to work before I started actually building it into my saw stand. I love it. And with that orange juice bottle muffler, it's very quiet.

 

Pretty sure my Seyco vacuum has some sort of muffler built into it.. It's much longer than the one I bought off eBay and it has screws at the back with some sort of extension on it.. It's not very loud.. at least not to me.. I have it mounted at the back of the saw stand as you can see in the photos.. I've been really busy so I haven't had the chance to dig the eBay one back out and do some comparing.. Pretty sure this Seyco one is a bit quieter than the other one... I'll try to look them both over and maybe do some sound comparison on it..  This is something I was going to mention in my first post but got an order during the middle of my posting and I forgot what i was doing, LOL Darn customers timing always messing me up, 

That all said... I'm sort of wondering if the suction is as good on the Seyco too.. one thing I see that "could be " better on the Seyco is the dust hose to the Vac hook up is kinda loose fitting and could use some sort of rubber end on the hose that was a tighter fit.. the way it came was just a hose that was cut and it has a zip tie around it that I guess you're supposed to try to clamp it onto the vac. but there is no ridge or anything on the vac... it's just smooth.. if I bump the hose just right it'll fall off.. I was going to look at the c-pap hose I have and see if maybe I could use a section of that instead.. or maybe some of the hose that came with my eBay vac.. I can't seem to pull the zip tie up any more to make it tighter.. It's a great system but that is my only complaint about it.. they should have some sort of rubber connector on the end to make a tighter fit in my opinion..    

  

[jerrye]

9 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

if I bump the hose just right it'll fall off.. I was going to look at the c-pap hose I have and see if maybe I could use a section of that instead.. or maybe some of the hose that came with my eBay vac.. I can't seem to pull the zip tie up any more to make it tighter.. It's a great system but that is my only complaint about it.. they should have some sort of rubber connector on the end to make a tighter fit in my opinion..    

  

Kevin, wouldn't a worm gear clamp solve this?

[kmmcrafts]

33 minutes ago, jerrye said:

Kevin, wouldn't a worm gear clamp solve this?

Yeah that would also work.. however it'd be nice to have just a rubber end so it was easier to remove the hose.. While you could remove the whole end of the vac with the hose on it I suppose.. I just thought in order to change the vac filter it'd be easier to remove the hose and then the end cap to change the filter.. as you remove the end cap where the hose hooks to to access the filter..

 

[OCtoolguy]

15 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Pretty sure my Seyco vacuum has some sort of muffler built into it.. It's much longer than the one I bought off eBay and it has screws at the back with some sort of extension on it.. It's not very loud.. at least not to me.. I have it mounted at the back of the saw stand as you can see in the photos.. I've been really busy so I haven't had the chance to dig the eBay one back out and do some comparing.. Pretty sure this Seyco one is a bit quieter than the other one... I'll try to look them both over and maybe do some sound comparison on it..  This is something I was going to mention in my first post but got an order during the middle of my posting and I forgot what i was doing, LOL Darn customers timing always messing me up, 

That all said... I'm sort of wondering if the suction is as good on the Seyco too.. one thing I see that "could be " better on the Seyco is the dust hose to the Vac hook up is kinda loose fitting and could use some sort of rubber end on the hose that was a tighter fit.. the way it came was just a hose that was cut and it has a zip tie around it that I guess you're supposed to try to clamp it onto the vac. but there is no ridge or anything on the vac... it's just smooth.. if I bump the hose just right it'll fall off.. I was going to look at the c-pap hose I have and see if maybe I could use a section of that instead.. or maybe some of the hose that came with my eBay vac.. I can't seem to pull the zip tie up any more to make it tighter.. It's a great system but that is my only complaint about it.. they should have some sort of rubber connector on the end to make a tighter fit in my opinion..    

  

I know exactly what you are saying. I was wondering if we could take one wrap of two sided tape on that inlet and then slide the hose over it and clamp it. That way it would have some grip to hold it in place.. I was digging through our dumpster a while back and someone had tossed a part from a furniture shampoo-er or something of that sort. It was brand new and never used. It had just the right hose with it so I kept it and tossed the shampoo head. It's a black corrugated hose and it's just the right diameter so that is what I'm going to use on my setup. I also have the cpap hose that I'm going to use to hook to the pvc piping at the saw. It's a jerry-rigged setup at best but it sure works. I am curious as to what you find on your Seyco vac that acts as a sound reducer. I'd be interested in seeing pics of that.

 

[Rockytime]

Yeah Kevin, a picture of the noise reducer might be helpful. Glad the Seyco is working well for you.

[fredfret]

A piece of window screen placed over the pick up nozzle should stop small pieces without stopping dust extraction. 

[OCtoolguy]

1 hour ago, fredfret said:

A piece of window screen placed over the pick up nozzle should stop small pieces without stopping dust extraction. 

Good idea. I forgot about that. Not that I have small pieces that have to be saved but it would stop clogs.

[kmmcrafts]

4 hours ago, octoolguy said:

I know exactly what you are saying. I was wondering if we could take one wrap of two sided tape on that inlet and then slide the hose over it and clamp it. That way it would have some grip to hold it in place.. I was digging through our dumpster a while back and someone had tossed a part from a furniture shampoo-er or something of that sort. It was brand new and never used. It had just the right hose with it so I kept it and tossed the shampoo head. It's a black corrugated hose and it's just the right diameter so that is what I'm going to use on my setup. I also have the cpap hose that I'm going to use to hook to the pvc piping at the saw. It's a jerry-rigged setup at best but it sure works. I am curious as to what you find on your Seyco vac that acts as a sound reducer. I'd be interested in seeing pics of that.

 

 

3 hours ago, Rockytime said:

Yeah Kevin, a picture of the noise reducer might be helpful. Glad the Seyco is working well for you.

Well here is some comparison between the eBay vac and the Seyco vac. 

 

Here I placed a ruler up against the vac handle...

 

From what I can see it's nothing but a extension on the vac.. Way up by where the handle is I can see the vac motor / fan assembly.. so I think it's just a hollow extension on it with the normal end cap thing on it like the ebay vac has

This is what I was talking about with the Seyco hose assembly... The eBay vac came with some hose and crevice tool and other attachments  Photo below shows the hose that has rubber ends.. also the Seyco hose is more of a harder plastic more rigid than the hose that come with the ebay vac..

Edited July 23, 2020 by kmmcrafts

[OCtoolguy]

2 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

 

Well here is some comparison between the eBay vac and the Seyco vac. 

 

Here I placed a ruler up against the vac handle...

 

From what I can see it's nothing but a extension on the vac.. Way up by where the handle is I can see the vac motor / fan assembly.. so I think it's just a hollow extension on it with the normal end cap thing on it like the ebay vac has

This is what I was talking about with the Seyco hose assembly... The eBay vac came with some hose and crevice tool and other attachments  Photo below shows the hose that has rubber ends.. also the Seyco hose is more of a harder plastic more rigid than the hose that come with the ebay vac..

I guess I'll have to paint my o/j bottle black.

[Rockytime]

5 hours ago, fredfret said:

A piece of window screen placed over the pick up nozzle should stop small pieces without stopping dust extraction. 

I'll have to check my ACE store. I'll need a fairly coarse screen. Regular window is too fine.

[Heli_av8tor]

Ask for hardware cloth.

comes in various size squares. 

Edited July 24, 2020 by Heli_av8tor

[Rockytime]

3 hours ago, Heli_av8tor said:

Ask for hardware cloth.

comes in various size squares. 

I'll check that out. Thanks.

[DME72]

kevin, do you have a link on ebay for that vacuum?

doug

[kmmcrafts]

27 minutes ago, DME72 said:

kevin, do you have a link on ebay for that vacuum?

doug

I bought the last one that was a "new in open box " deal.. there are other "new or used "on eBay but I haven't seen any deals to write home about yet. LOL 

Just a do a search for " Metro Vac 500 " on eBay.. or Metro Vac & Go 500.. You should see some on there.. They have quite a few of them for the $80 - 130 range but to me the Seyco would be a better deal since it's a kit with all the parts needed. ie cyclone dust separator and canister, tubing etc etc.. 

Also should make note that the Seyco dust separator is not the dust deputy brand.. it's the cheap China made knock off as it has the china writing on the side of it.. Probably about as good of a unit.. 

There was a complete "used" Seyco one on craigslist not long ago that I posted in the deals section of this group.. It was for $80 if i remember correctly.. If they still have it maybe they'll ship it.. Believe the location was IL.