ben2008 Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 I'm going to make some scroll saw keepsake boxes for Christmas presents this year. Looking for suggestions on the best type of hinges to use and where can I buy them?. I will make the boxes out of solid 1/4" red oak or maple. Maybe both. Below is one pattern I will use. There are others. Thanks OCtoolguy, munzieb and danny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyred Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 I have used small decorative brass hinges on boxes like that. You can get them at most of the box stores and hardware stores. They come with small nails to hold them on, which I don't like, so I got some 1/4" brass screws to use with them. With 1/4" wood, you may need to file or grind off the very tip so they don't go all the way through the wood. The screws will need predrilled holes to fit into, but they hold a lot better than nails. I use a hinge bit to drill the holes, which makes life a little easier. By the way, I like the box. You did a great job on it. Someone is going to be very happy. Tom OCtoolguy, ben2008 and munzieb 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 What is a hinge bit? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 I had to google it... and your favorite store has them.. looking at the pictures it looks to me like the outer art lines up with the hole in the hinge and then you get your hole perfectly centered into the hinge hole for the screws to go in and sink without getting them off centered etc.. I may be wrong on that.. https://www.harborfreight.com/hinge-drill-bit-set-3-pc-61550.html ben2008, OCtoolguy, Lucky2 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) Here's a few places I have bought hinges and catches from for boxes. The type of hinge 1st depends upon the type of lid you use, overhang, flush, inside, apron etc and if you are prepared to house them in or only want surface mounts. I go along with Tom, and never use nails, although that is what some of the smaller hinges and catches come supplied with. I always use screwshttps://www.craftparts.com/product-category/hardware/hinges-brass/https://www.nationalartcraft.com/product-index.asphttps://www.nationalartcraft.com/subcategory.asp?gid=12&cid=103&scid=1762 I have also used Quadrant hinges. They are neat as they incorporate a stay, but take a little more work to fit then standard type hinges Another type I use are the concealed hinges, barrel hinge Edited August 2, 2020 by John B Lucky2 and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 If you want to do an easy hinge, I use the LT277. It may not work on your type of box. https://craft-inc.com/collections/hinges?page=4 ben2008, OCtoolguy and Birchbark 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birchbark Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, John B said: Here's a few places I have bought hinges and catches from for boxes. The type of hinge 1st depends upon the type of lid you use, overhang, flush, inside, apron etc and if you are prepared to house them in or only want surface mounts. I go along with Tom, and never use nails, although that is what some of the smaller hinges and catches come supplied with. I always use screwshttps://www.craftparts.com/product-category/hardware/hinges-brass/https://www.nationalartcraft.com/product-index.asphttps://www.nationalartcraft.com/subcategory.asp?gid=12&cid=103&scid=1762 I have also used Quadrant hinges. They are neat as they incorporate a stay, but take a little more work to fit then standard type hinges Another type I use are the concealed hinges, barrel hinge Will those work on his 1/4" material? Russell Edited August 2, 2020 by Birchbark OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Watch out with the brass screws. They will snap off in an instant. I drill pilot holes and I screw in a steel screw of the same size, fully seating it to insure the hole can accept the brass hardware. ben2008, munzieb and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhudson Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Rockytime said: What is a hinge bit? I think the more common name, at least here in the upper mid-west, is vix bit. Dave Monk, Birchbark, OCtoolguy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Birchbark said: Will those work on his 1/4" material? Russell Russell, I have not used them on 1/4" 6mm but have on 3/8" 10mm. Not sure how small you can actually get those hinges. ben2008, Birchbark and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Go out to Amazon and search for mini hinges. ben2008 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hi Ben, can’t really help you on hinges and looks like you got lots of potential sources already. However, I did want to say what a beautiful box you have crafted. Should be loved by anyone who gets one. Second, I also wanted to ask if you could share information on where to find that pattern if you don’t mind. Love the butterflies. ben2008 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 12 hours ago, John B said: Here's a few places I have bought hinges and catches from for boxes. The type of hinge 1st depends upon the type of lid you use, overhang, flush, inside, apron etc and if you are prepared to house them in or only want surface mounts. I go along with Tom, and never use nails, although that is what some of the smaller hinges and catches come supplied with. I always use screwshttps://www.craftparts.com/product-category/hardware/hinges-brass/https://www.nationalartcraft.com/product-index.asphttps://www.nationalartcraft.com/subcategory.asp?gid=12&cid=103&scid=1762 I have also used Quadrant hinges. They are neat as they incorporate a stay, but take a little more work to fit then standard type hinges Another type I use are the concealed hinges, barrel hinge Thanks for the links. I'll take a look and see what i can find for my keepsake boxes. John B and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, meflick said: Hi Ben, can’t really help you on hinges and looks like you got lots of potential sources already. However, I did want to say what a beautiful box you have crafted. Should be loved by anyone who gets one. Second, I also wanted to ask if you could share information on where to find that pattern if you don’t mind. Love the butterflies. Here is the link. https://www.scrollsawartist.com/scroll-saw-patterns/boxes/page-2/?items_per_page=48 I haven't actually made that box yet. That is a picture of the box I'm going to make. I have daughters, granddaughters and great granddaughters that will love these types of boxes. Edited August 2, 2020 by ben2008 meflick and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 11 hours ago, oldhudson said: Watch out with the brass screws. They will snap off in an instant. I drill pilot holes and I screw in a steel screw of the same size, fully seating it to insure the hole can accept the brass hardware. Yep, I've snapped the head off those cheap tiny brass screws. Excellent tip. Thank you OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Dave Monk said: If you want to do an easy hinge, I use the LT277. It may not work on your type of box. https://craft-inc.com/collections/hinges?page=4 I like that hinge. But was unable to get the actual dimension and like you said, it may not work for me. I'll do a little more research. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 14 hours ago, jollyred said: I have used small decorative brass hinges on boxes like that. You can get them at most of the box stores and hardware stores. They come with small nails to hold them on, which I don't like, so I got some 1/4" brass screws to use with them. With 1/4" wood, you may need to file or grind off the very tip so they don't go all the way through the wood. The screws will need predrilled holes to fit into, but they hold a lot better than nails. I use a hinge bit to drill the holes, which makes life a little easier. By the way, I like the box. You did a great job on it. Someone is going to be very happy. Tom Tom Thanks for the tips. I haven't made that box yet. That is just a picture of one of the boxes I intend to make. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted August 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, John B said: Russell, I have not used them on 1/4" 6mm but have on 3/8" 10mm. Not sure how small you can actually get those hinges. I saw some 5mm barrel hinges at Rockler and Woodcraft. Nor really sure if they will work on 1/4" lumber. I searched for 4mm barrel hinges, but couldn't find any. Edited August 2, 2020 by ben2008 OCtoolguy and John B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ben2008 said: I saw some 5mm barrel hinges at Rockler and Woodcraft. Nor really sure if they will work on 1/4" lumber. I searched for 4mm barrel hinges, but couldn't find any. Putting a 5mm hinge in 6mm (1/4") material is a scary thought. One half mil left on each side just invites the "wood sprites" to work their mischief. Breathe wrong and you're looking at a blowout. Edited August 2, 2020 by Jim McDonald Trying to talk and type at same time ben2008 and John B 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, ben2008 said: Here is the link. https://www.scrollsawartist.com/scroll-saw-patterns/boxes/page-2/?items_per_page=48 I haven't actually made that box yet. That is a picture of the box I'm going to make. I have daughters, granddaughters and great granddaughters that will love these types of boxes. Thanks. That’s Sue Mey’s site. She makes excellent patterns. I will check it out. Edited August 2, 2020 by meflick ben2008 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimErn Posted August 3, 2020 Report Share Posted August 3, 2020 I am not optimistic enough to use 1/4, I would go with 3/8, even the pic looks like it is done in 3/8ths. Using 3/8ths makes fitting up hinges easier too. Just my thought, YMMV, great looking box though Dave Monk and John B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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