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[OzarkSawdust]

Just finished a piece for my son & daughter-in-law's 25th anniversary. I'll send it to them end of the month as I was in the middle of a shutter project for a lady and 3 other projects. It came out nice so I'm going to put it in my display for the fair this week.

It's 1/4" Oak veneer, cut with #1 & #3 Pegas blades, with a dip in Watco Natural.  

I'm going to make a frame, which is something new for me. Probably use a black background of some type, mat or painted. Undecided on a "floating frame" or a frame with no matting or glass, I've noticed a lot of that style lately, just the piece from edge to edge with frame overlapping the piece. Don't know if that style has a name...I've been a "stuff it in a Walmart frame" type of guy till I got my new miter saw (toy) the other day.

What would you guys and gals that frame your work suggest?

Making frames and picking the right background, other than everything black,  is a new part of the hobby I need to learn. I've seen some of your posts with a very nice piece of work...and being framed just really makes it pop! I need to learn that!

 

[Dave Monk]

You sure are keeping busy Gary. If I frame a project I always make my frame.  I have never used glass.  I have the same miter saw as you but I think I get a better job using a sled on my table saw which I made.  I also make a lot out of poplar and lacquer them black.

[OzarkSawdust]

1 hour ago, Dave Monk said:

You sure are keeping busy Gary. If I frame a project I always make my frame.  I have never used glass.  I have the same miter saw as you but I think I get a better job using a sled on my table saw which I made.  I also make a lot out of poplar and lacquer them black.

Good lookin piece Dave! So, when you frame a piece do you cut a rabbit in the frame and inset the piece...or just mount the piece to the back of the frame?

[GusGustin]

Gary - that is great .. what a cool idea .. I LIKE IT ...

 

And .. Dave .. great inlays .. you even inlaid the inlay .. wow --- I HAVE got to try that .. in fact . .  as I opened this thread - I already had your video up on the screen watching it for about the ump-teenth time.  Trying to get my courage up. You two .. inspirations !

[Dave Monk]

3 hours ago, OzarkSawdust said:

Good lookin piece Dave! So, when you frame a piece do you cut a rabbit in the frame and inset the piece...or just mount the piece to the back of the frame?

I do rabbit the back of the frame.

[FrankEV]

8 hours ago, OzarkSawdust said:

Just finished a piece for my son & daughter-in-law's 25th anniversary. I'll send it to them end of the month as I was in the middle of a shutter project for a lady and 3 other projects. It came out nice so I'm going to put it in my display for the fair this week.

It's 1/4" Oak veneer, cut with #1 & #3 Pegas blades, with a dip in Watco Natural.  

I'm going to make a frame, which is something new for me. Probably use a black background of some type, mat or painted. Undecided on a "floating frame" or a frame with no matting or glass, I've noticed a lot of that style lately, just the piece from edge to edge with frame overlapping the piece. Don't know if that style has a name...I've been a "stuff it in a Walmart frame" type of guy till I got my new miter saw (toy) the other day.

What would you guys and gals that frame your work suggest?

Making frames and picking the right background, other than everything black,  is a new part of the hobby I need to learn. I've seen some of your posts with a very nice piece of work...and being framed just really makes it pop! I need to learn that!

 

I have been using inexpensive frames from Walmart also.  I get rid of the glass and strip all the do dads off the back.  Then usually glue the panel into the frame.  This is OK, depending on the piece. 

Recently I have since gone to Hobby Loby and Michaels and looked in their custom framing section.  Much toooooooooo costly to have them make a frame, but they do sell some nice premade frames in a veriety of sizes and I think the are worth the money for a great looking piece of work like you have done. Especially if it is going to be a gift for someone special.  

I too, am struggleing with the idea of making my own frames but it is nearly impossible to purchase true Frame Moulding in stick form and what I did find was VERY costly.  Even simple frames from hardwood flat stock can wind up costing as much as buying a premade fame.

Up to now I have been keeping my projet panel sizes to suit standard Photograph sizes, basically 8x10 and 11x14, but I did note Hobby Lobby has some unusual sizes including 12x16, 10x13 and 11x17.  They even have larger sizes for posters and such. 

My shop is so small now that It is not even worth me getting a good miter saw so I will have to build my own frames with hand tools for now, for the basic projects.  I'll spend a few extra dollars for a nice frame when the project demands it.

 

 

[OzarkSawdust]

1 hour ago, FrankEV said:

I have been using inexpensive frames from Walmart also.  I get rid of the glass and strip all the do dads off the back.  Then usually glue the panel into the frame.  This is OK, depending on the piece. 

Recently I have since gone to Hobby Loby and Michaels and looked in their custom framing section.  Much toooooooooo costly to have them make a frame, but they do sell some nice premade frames in a veriety of sizes and I think the are worth the money for a great looking piece of work like you have done. Especially if it is going to be a gift for someone special.  

I too, am struggleing with the idea of making my own frames but it is nearly impossible to purchase true Frame Moulding in stick form and what I did find was VERY costly.  Even simple frames from hardwood flat stock can wind up costing as much as buying a premade fame.

Up to now I have been keeping my projet panel sizes to suit standard Photograph sizes, basically 8x10 and 11x14, but I did note Hobby Lobby has some unusual sizes including 12x16, 10x13 and 11x17.  They even have larger sizes for posters and such. 

My shop is so small now that It is not even worth me getting a good miter saw so I will have to build my own frames with hand tools for now, for the basic projects.  I'll spend a few extra dollars for a nice frame when the project demands it.

 

 

After we bought and remodeled this house two years ago, I put up a 18 x 30 shop/boat storage building.  So I have plenty of room, If I keep the boxes of "stuff" from taking over! About a year ago I happened upon a small insulation company from central KS that was doing a large job in my part of MO. They had a bunch of leftover chemicals and made me a deal I couldn't refuse! They got a little money for chemical they would have to throw out anyway, and I got my shop spray foamed for dirt cheep.  

The nearest Hobby Lobby is a good 45-60 min. away...one way. The COVID is pretty active in Joplin right now, so I don't go there unless I absolutely have to...and I haven't done so. But they do have a large frame selection! They even have the frames/boxes you would put an autographed football, baseball & bat, jersey, etc. in. 

I don't mind ordering one online...if I've seen it before and know how it looks in person and the quality, or lack of, but hate to just order blind on that kind of thing. 

[spirithorse]

Great work, Gary!
On a project like that plaque you have shown us, I often times just use a router bit on the
perimeter and it looks pretty good and is pretty simple.
My favorite is called a Roman Ogee with a profile like this image on the right

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=%2bVmgxH9V&id=74EF59973B4E305EF9C2442F211BB97059CA0BC6&thid=OIP.-VmgxH9VFY2bw2bo08tWmAHaDJ&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fecx.images-amazon.com%2fimages%2fI%2f41dFLVWrLRL.jpg&exph=213&expw=500&q=router+bits+ogee+profiles&simid=608028620248319456&ck=F56CDE1E7B8B5B5FB4262EFA9C731FC4&selectedIndex=20&FORM=IRPRST&ajaxhist=0

but, a nice round over looks very nice also.

You can buy inexpensive bits at Harbor Freight Tools and single bits from most hardware stores won't break the bank too badly.

God Bless! Spirithorse

[Ron Johnson]

Well done Gary. I purchase majority of my frames. The odd time I'll make my own.  

[amazingkevin]

Love birds and wedding rings ! I am fond of this one!!!

Edited August 23, 2020 by amazingkevin
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[daveww1]

very nice job

[FrankEV]

50 minutes ago, amazingkevin said:

Love birds and wedding rings ! I am find of this one!!!

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[dgman]

Great job Gary! I make my own frames too. I mill the wood for the frame to  the width that looks good for the project. Then use a dado blade on my table saw to cut the rabbit. I use a dedicated jig on my table saw to cut the miters.i glue the project into the frame so I don’t have to reinforce The miter joints. Making your own frames allows you to fit the frame to the project rather than fitting the project to the frame.

[Tomanydogs]

Beautiful cutting. Well done. 

[smitty0312]

I really like that....top notch A++

[lawson56]

Awesome job!!!!.Love Dave suggestion.

[OzarkSawdust]

On 8/22/2020 at 10:41 PM, Ron Johnson said:

Well done Gary. I purchase majority of my frames. The odd time I'll make my own.  

Thanks Ron! You've posted some beautiful framed work in the past!! 

[OzarkSawdust]

21 hours ago, dgman said:

Great job Gary! I make my own frames too. I mill the wood for the frame to  the width that looks good for the project. Then use a dado blade on my table saw to cut the rabbit. I use a dedicated jig on my table saw to cut the miters.i glue the project into the frame so I don’t have to reinforce The miter joints. Making your own frames allows you to fit the frame to the project rather than fitting the project to the frame.

Thanks Dan! That sound like a good way to make frames. I think my next major tool purchase may be a planer. Then I can mill wood to what I need, and can use wood from the local lumber yard. Do you cut your blanks to the pattern size...or add 1/4, 1/2, or whatever to the blank size for framing? What size do you cut the rabbit for 1/8" or 1/4" blanks? I haven't done that yet, don't have a dado set and just a cheep Kobalt folding table saw so I'll probably try a router. Thanks for the tips!

[dgman]

I cut the dados deep enough to accommodate the thickness of the blank and the backer board. The width of the dado depends on how much reveal I have on the work piece. Again, the frame is made to fit the project, rather than fitting the project to the frame.

[Dave Monk]

3 hours ago, OzarkSawdust said:

Thanks Dan! That sound like a good way to make frames. I think my next major tool purchase may be a planer. Then I can mill wood to what I need, and can use wood from the local lumber yard. Do you cut your blanks to the pattern size...or add 1/4, 1/2, or whatever to the blank size for framing? What size do you cut the rabbit for 1/8" or 1/4" blanks? I haven't done that yet, don't have a dado set and just a cheep Kobalt folding table saw so I'll probably try a router. Thanks for the tips!

I use a regular blade to cut the rabbit. One cut on edge and the other on the back side.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Dave Monk