spray adhesive easy to use -repositional

[Puzzleguy]

Ok- this is showing my age , the stuff i use to use is old and the can is empty -

plus its not made any more ( i think )  need something to hold down a pattern

that I can remove when im done cutting- I see gorilla , 3m etc.

Whats the best stuff -- Thanks in advance !  

Tony B.

[Foxfold]

I use 3m Mount Spray, but I've used other 'repositional' craft sprays to great effect.  I spray onto my pattern and place directly onto my wood.  When finished I wipe with a little white spirit and my pattern fall off in one piece no matter how delicate.  If you do puzzles I know that Scott Sieffer has a video on here somewhere about how he prepares to cut his puzzles and what he uses. @Iguanadon

[dgman]

I’m always concerned about patterns loosening while I’m cutting. I use 3M 77 spray adhesive on the pattern, no tape underneath. As Brenda mentioned above, I spray mineral spirits on the cut pattern. It will lift right off. Then wipe off the mineral spirits and you’re good to go. If you don’t want to use mineral spirits, then you can heat the pattern with a heat gun or a hair dryer. The heat will loosen the adhesive and the used pattern will lift right off.

[heppnerguy]

I have used several different spray glue as well as the large glue sticks and I also have used the same method of removing my patterns, glued directly to the wood as mentioned by Brenda. I also use blue painters tape on my wood first and then place my sprayed pattern on it. Both methods work really well. Remember you only need a light spray on the back of your pattern and none on the wood. Make sure the surface of the wood or tape is clean and free of any dust or dirt. after spraying  your pattern, wait about one of two minutes to apply the pattern to your wood. Don't worry that you do not have enough glue or that it will not stick after waiting. You can even wait longer and it will be OKey.

Dick

hepnerguy

[Iguanadon]

3 hours ago, Foxfold said:

I use 3m Mount Spray, but I've used other 'repositional' craft sprays to great effect.  I spray onto my pattern and place directly onto my wood.  When finished I wipe with a little white spirit and my pattern fall off in one piece no matter how delicate.  If you do puzzles I know that Scott Sieffer has a video on here somewhere about how he prepares to cut his puzzles and what he uses. @Iguanadon

Here is my process that many others use as well... https://youtu.be/LPjY8lEnAA4

[kmmcrafts]

I've probably used every brand out there.. and hate all of them, LOL BUT I have to use it for the larger projects.. The worst one I used was Elmers.. and it worked well but you really have to spray a heavy mount on so even though the can was cheaper I used the can up much faster because I had to spray it so heavy.. and just about the same results with the Gorilla brand.. not quite as bad as elmers.. 3M 77 is good stuff but before the can gets completely used up it seems the nozzle plugs up.. even turning the can upside down and draining it out each time.. I've heard soaking the nozzles is some solvents will keep them clean and clog free. 3M-45 seems to be the better one.. That's just my opinion.. 

Also my opinion is.. I hate the messy spray glues.. I use self adhesive full sheet shipping labels.. no spray glue mess.. no sticky fingers from the spray glue etc etc etc... I buy them from eBay.. The larger quantity the lower the per sheet cost ends up being.. I buy either the 500 or 1000 sheets at a time.. which ends up actually being cheaper than the glue and papers.. How many papers do you get from a $10 can of spray? I used to go through 4-5 cans a year.. at a minimum.. plus add the paper.. 

I see this seller has raised prices.. you may shop around.. I was getting 1000 sheets at $55 but this link is the stuff I use

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Shipping-Labels-Full-Sheet-8-5x11-Self-Adhesive-PACKZON/172818314778?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

 

 

[FrankEV]

31 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

.... I use self adhesive full sheet shipping labels... 

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What do you do for patterns that are larger than 8 1/2 x 11?   A lot of the patterns I do are designed for 11 x 14.

 

[kmmcrafts]

18 minutes ago, FrankEV said:

What do you do for patterns that are larger than 8 1/2 x 11?   A lot of the patterns I do are designed for 11 x 14.

 

I don't do too many of the larger things so I do use the glue for that... IF I did a lot of larger works.. I would buy them in 11 x 17 sheets.. They are harder to find in those larger sizes but I did find a company that sells them.. Now if I could remember who that company was I would link it.. I'm sure you could find something using google search though.. Two benefits for me with smaller stuff is.. it's easier to ship smaller things and the shipping label 8.5 x 11 work well, LOL 

[dgman]

2 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

I've probably used every brand out there.. and hate all of them, LOL BUT I have to use it for the larger projects.. The worst one I used was Elmers.. and it worked well but you really have to spray a heavy mount on so even though the can was cheaper I used the can up much faster because I had to spray it so heavy.. and just about the same results with the Gorilla brand.. not quite as bad as elmers.. 3M 77 is good stuff but before the can gets completely used up it seems the nozzle plugs up.. even turning the can upside down and draining it out each time.. I've heard soaking the nozzles is some solvents will keep them clean and clog free. 3M-45 seems to be the better one.. That's just my opinion.. 

Also my opinion is.. I hate the messy spray glues.. I use self adhesive full sheet shipping labels.. no spray glue mess.. no sticky fingers from the spray glue etc etc etc... I buy them from eBay.. The larger quantity the lower the per sheet cost ends up being.. I buy either the 500 or 1000 sheets at a time.. which ends up actually being cheaper than the glue and papers.. How many papers do you get from a $10 can of spray? I used to go through 4-5 cans a year.. at a minimum.. plus add the paper.. 

I see this seller has raised prices.. you may shop around.. I was getting 1000 sheets at $55 but this link is the stuff I use

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Shipping-Labels-Full-Sheet-8-5x11-Self-Adhesive-PACKZON/172818314778?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

 

 

The nozzle clogs up because the glue builds up on the opening of the nozzle. It takes two seconds to wipe off the nozzle after each use. Also, I keep a couple of nozzles in a small jar of mineral spirits in case I need a fresh one. But since I have been wiping off the nozzle after each use, I haven’t needed to change it.

[rjweb]

Another thing I do is when done spraying, turn upside down and do a couple quick sprays in trash can, keeps from clogging, RJ

[kmmcrafts]

21 minutes ago, dgman said:

The nozzle clogs up because the glue builds up on the opening of the nozzle. It takes two seconds to wipe off the nozzle after each use. Also, I keep a couple of nozzles in a small jar of mineral spirits in case I need a fresh one. But since I have been wiping off the nozzle after each use, I haven’t needed to change it.

I turn upside down and spray until it cleans out the glue in the suction system and also wipe off the nozzle.. I still get a clogged up nozzle before the can is empty.. Possibly something to do with the climate we have? as the same thing happens to spray paint cans if they are left out in the unheated shop.. No biggy to me because I like the peel and stick so much better than the spray anyway.. even if the can would work all the way until it's empty I'd still choose the labels.. I know it's not for everyone just as the spray isn't for me.. It's messy.. My thumb gets sticky adhesive all over it then my finger print ready on all my devices won't read my print to unlock them etc etc.. so for me.. it's peel and stick labels..  

[dgman]

47 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

I turn upside down and spray until it cleans out the glue in the suction system and also wipe off the nozzle.. I still get a clogged up nozzle before the can is empty.. Possibly something to do with the climate we have? as the same thing happens to spray paint cans if they are left out in the unheated shop.. No biggy to me because I like the peel and stick so much better than the spray anyway.. even if the can would work all the way until it's empty I'd still choose the labels.. I know it's not for everyone just as the spray isn't for me.. It's messy.. My thumb gets sticky adhesive all over it then my finger print ready on all my devices won't read my print to unlock them etc etc.. so for me.. it's peel and stick labels..  

You’re not supposed to spray your thumb Kevin! I have no idea about the whether Kevin as we never, or hardly ever have freezing whether. My current can of 3M 77 is almost empty. In fact, I have been expecting it to Peter out for weeks now But keeps on ticking. I spray my patterns on a pizza box sitting on my work bench. We do pizza ever Friday, so I always have a box to spray on. As long as I wipe off the nozzle after every use, it will keep spraying until it empty.

[trackman]

I also use 3M 77. Sometimes if small project I use blue tape on larger projects clear shelf liner. Either way I spray the tape or shelf liner not the paper pattern. This way you don’t get glue on your fingers. I don’t wait either, spray an place pattern. Ten + years no problem with pattern not sticking.

[kmmcrafts]

30 minutes ago, trackman said:

I also use 3M 77. Sometimes if small project I use blue tape on larger projects clear shelf liner. Either way I spray the tape or shelf liner not the paper pattern. This way you don’t get glue on your fingers. I don’t wait either, spray an place pattern. Ten + years no problem with pattern not sticking.

Doesn't the over spray on the liner / tape where the pattern paper doesn't cover get on your hands? I cut the pattern out of the sheet of paper so I can arrange them on a larger board with other patterns also attached.. I suppose this would work great on portraits.. as you can cover the whole board with the pattern paper.. not so much with say ornaments and you need several ornaments on a 8 x 8 blank.. usually stacked 5-6 1/8" pieces and you can place about 4-6 ornament patterns on the stack.. Anyway.. I'm still sold on printing the pattern on full sheet shipping labels.. I use the labels for mailing my orders out so I buy / use them anyway.. 

[Rockytime]

I use 3M 77. Over-spray is messy. I just use a cardboard box.

[BadBob]

13 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

3M 77 is good stuff but before the can gets completely used up it seems the nozzle plugs up.. even turning the can upside down and draining it out each time.. I've heard soaking the nozzles is some solvents will keep them clean and clog free.

I keep mine in a jar of mineral spirits. It works. I never have a clogged nozzle.

I don't know why people have so much of a problem with 3m 77 overspray. I use a flattened-out box with an old catalog or magazine on top and flip the pages as they get sticky some get on the box but not much. I've been using the same box for several years.

Lately, I have been experimenting with Elmer's X-Treme Glue Stick. So far it works well for smaller things you just need to be careful to get it on the edges. It's not as sticky as 3m 77 by a long shot. but if I'm careful it doesn't come unstuck while I am cutting. It dissolves with alcohol.

If I am concerned about getting glue on my fingers or need to place tiny patterns precisely I use hemostats to handle the pattern.

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, BadBob said:

I keep mine in a jar of mineral spirits. It works. I never have a clogged nozzle.

I don't know why people have so much of a problem with 3m 77 overspray. I use a flattened-out box with an old catalog or magazine on top and flip the pages as they get sticky some get on the box but not much. I've been using the same box for several years.

Lately, I have been experimenting with Elmer's X-Treme Glue Stick. So far it works well for smaller things you just need to be careful to get it on the edges. It's not as sticky as 3m 77 by a long shot. but if I'm careful it doesn't come unstuck while I am cutting. It dissolves with alcohol.

If I am concerned about getting glue on my fingers or need to place tiny patterns precisely I use hemostats to handle the pattern.

I use latex gloves like hospitals now for what little of the spray glue I use these days.. But once you touch the pattern with glue on it even if I have another pattern to do.. most times I have to throw them out before each pattern cause they get real sticky.. seems like a waist and something to fill that landfills with...it's worst than when just getting it onto my fingers.. I think because it soaks into my skin some.. and no texture or anything on those gloves.. I use the gloves for dipping projects in Danish oil. But I take them off carefully and can re-use them several times..  

[WayneMahler]

I have used 3M 77 for years. Putting blue painters tape un it. On very delicate patterns I just use the pattern directly on wood. Once cut dampen with mineral sprits, llift off the pattern then carefully wipe off any left residue if any. The remaining mineral spirits will evaporate quickly . As always watch what you do with the towel ( i use paper towels ) so you don't get an accidental fire..

[WayneMahler]

35 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

I use latex gloves like hospitals now for what little of the spray glue I use these days.. But once you touch the pattern with glue on it even if I have another pattern to do.. most times I have to throw them out before each pattern cause they get real sticky.. seems like a waist and something to fill that landfills with...it's worst than when just getting it onto my fingers.. I think because it soaks into my skin some.. and no texture or anything on those gloves.. I use the gloves for dipping projects in Danish oil. But I take them off carefully and can re-use them several times..  

Kevin

You can wipe off your fingers with mineral spirits and a paper towel to get the glue off. Using nitrile gloves adds to the frustration and like you said, wasteful. 

[trackman]

12 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Doesn't the over spray on the liner / tape where the pattern paper doesn't cover get on your hands? 

Usually I will cut the board close to the pattern after the pattern is put on.  If there is any exposed glue it is dry before I get to start cutting. 

[OzarkSawdust]

17 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

I turn upside down and spray until it cleans out the glue in the suction system and also wipe off the nozzle.. I still get a clogged up nozzle before the can is empty.. Possibly something to do with the climate we have? as the same thing happens to spray paint cans if they are left out in the unheated shop.. No biggy to me because I like the peel and stick so much better than the spray anyway.. even if the can would work all the way until it's empty I'd still choose the labels.. I know it's not for everyone just as the spray isn't for me.. It's messy.. My thumb gets sticky adhesive all over it then my finger print ready on all my devices won't read my print to unlock them etc etc.. so for me.. it's peel and stick labels..  

I've gone to the labels also, really like it better. Just print the pattern on the label and stick it on! 

[amazingkevin]

I,ve tryed them all and this one works for me and even let's you remove it once down no problem

[Iguanadon]

I'm catching up on this threat... 3M77 is EVIL, almost as evil as spiral blades!   It's crazy sticky.  I use 3M45 along with the shelf liner.

[kmmcrafts]

4 hours ago, Iguanadon said:

I'm catching up on this threat... 3M77 is EVIL, almost as evil as spiral blades!   It's crazy sticky.  I use 3M45 along with the shelf liner.

The last can I bought is the 3M 45.. I just used it the first time the other day as I had a big pattern to do that wouldn't fit my full sheet shipping label size.. seemed to work good..

You are certainly correct about the 3M77.. we use that stuff in the autobody repair shops to glue molding and emblems back on cars / trucks etc.. they stay on even through those high powered car washes etc.. We also used to use the 3M-45 back in the day to stick sanding pads to the DA sanders.. Now days the disc papers come with adhesive.. I remember one of the guys in the shop ran out of 3M-45 so he used the 3M 77 for the sander.. Hahahahaha... ruined his sanding pad on his sander.. pulled the paper off and half his rubber sanding pad came with it...        

[JimErn]

How odd, at least to me, I use 77 all the time and have no problems getting it off.  Mineral spirits work just fine.