ben2008 Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I'm sure this has been asked before, probably many time. But I have not seen it. I'm curious. If money was no problem, what scroll saw would people buy? If I was in the market my choice would be the Hawk 220 Ultra. Don't need anything bigger. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedido Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 This is a loaded question as I am sure there will be a different answer from every person. Me personally, I am still in love with my Dewalt 788 Type 1, but that is me. Wizard of Oz, OCtoolguy and ben2008 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I have an EX-21 and it's all I need. So since we're dealing in hypotheticals, if money were no problem, I would likely find a lot of other stuff to spend it on. OCtoolguy and ben2008 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Hegner or Hawk ben2008, Jim Finn, stoney and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmansbike Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I. Vote for the Hawk ben2008, stoney and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfreeman Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Hegner ben2008, stoney, OCtoolguy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneMahler Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 My EX-21 is everything I need. But if I could use the money for what I want, it would go to a new bandsaw. OCtoolguy and ben2008 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevan Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Pegas stoney, ben2008, OCtoolguy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 I'd buy another Hawk.. This time I'd go with the BM-220 since I already just purchased a BM-226 a couple years ago.. That said, someday I would like to try a Hegner.. hear a lot about them.. seen a few and had a chance to get a nice barely used 14" for $40 at a estate sale.. I should have got it.. but I was being my stubborn self and said I didn't need it because at the time I had three Hawks a EX. Dewalt and a Delta, LOL.. still have them all except the DeWalt.. Now that I have the newest Hawk dialed in and did some upgrades to my oldest Hawk.. Ultra has always works great for me.. but I rebuilt that EX- have about 25 hours on since the rebuild.. really don't even use it.. Been thinking I need to send it to someone that would use it.. ben2008, stoney and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Well, if money was no object, the first thing I'd do is buy a house with a real shop. Then I'd load it up with all the best woodworking tools. Once all that was done, I'd buy one each of all the best scroll saws just to have them . I'd like to have another Hegner. I liked the one I had with the exception of the motor/soft start issue. I love my EX21. I haven't had the EX16 long enough to really try it out but so far so good. I'm sort of glad the money is an issue though. I think if it was too easy to buy stuff, I'd never appreciate having anything. This way, I cherish everything I have. Woodrush, ben2008, Fedido and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 If money and room was no object I would buy a Hawk and a Pegas. I already have a Hegner Multi-Max 22V that has served me well for 12 years but I would like to try the some other saws. OCtoolguy, oldhudson, ben2008 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teachnlearn Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 If money is no option, I would buy a government bid scroll saw. I think they go for 2 million a piece. RJF OzarkSawdust, stoney and OCtoolguy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 I have been a strong advocate for Hawk since purchasing my G4-26 back in 2005. It top feeds easily as the upper arm is spring loaded when you release the bottom blade clamp, that gives you a huge amount of room for feeding the blade. The same goes for bottom feeding lots of room. As with any saw that all takes practice. The front back stroke is adjustable to almost perfectly vertical. I have not heard anything from or about Hawk in some time, Kevin are you still in touch with them.? That said I would add a Pegas to that collection. Mainly for that fact that the table stays level and the blade moves for bevel cuts. I currently have a well tuned 16inch EX with Pegas clamps. So In my opinion I have the best scrolling capability for my scrolling needs. OCtoolguy, ben2008, oldhudson and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Rolf said: I have been a strong advocate for Hawk since purchasing my G4-26 back in 2005. It top feeds easily as the upper arm is spring loaded when you release the bottom blade clamp, that gives you a huge amount of room for feeding the blade. The same goes for bottom feeding lots of room. As with any saw that all takes practice. The front back stroke is adjustable to almost perfectly vertical. I have not heard anything from or about Hawk in some time, Kevin are you still in touch with them.? That said I would add a Pegas to that collection. Mainly for that fact that the table stays level and the blade moves for bevel cuts. I currently have a well tuned 16inch EX with Pegas clamps. So In my opinion I have the best scrolling capability for my scrolling needs. I haven't been in touch with them for quite a long time now, but I haven't really tried. Reading on FB groups etc.. it seems as if they've improved customer service greatly... but I can't vouch on that for sure. as I'm just going off of reading other peoples postings.. I hope they really have. They make a great saw.. made in the USA is a bonus too. for me anyway. ben2008, OCtoolguy, GrampaJim and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 A Pegas. I have only heard good stuff about them and as they are based up[on the EX21 which I have had for many years, I don't think I could go wrong. ben2008, danny, OCtoolguy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 I am leaning towards the excell 21 I have oly had it a shorttime but it is nive to run. My first swaw was a Dremmel with a 4 inch pined blade it held up real well it was rlunning food after 5 years but swa out dated. then came a sears it lasted 20 years and needed major repairs the 2 Dewalts 788 why ee I don't know they only lasted about 3 years I then got a Delta which is stillin the shop after 4 months iused it 18 months and it quit.d at the craftmans used and It wasnn't bluilt like my first craftman so I really dond't know. I use a saw 25-30 hours a week in the summer months and when ever possible in the winter. IKE OCtoolguy and ben2008 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 I will take the 31"excaliber. just because it's needed more than not to make scrolling that much easyier!!! OCtoolguy and ben2008 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Monk Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 If money is no problem I would recommend you buy two...Hegner and Pegas. danny, ben2008 and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 Delta, Love mine. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrush Posted November 3, 2020 Report Share Posted November 3, 2020 I love my king Excelsior. But I would trade it for a seyco because I like the table better OCtoolguy and ben2008 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 5:59 PM, Woodrush said: I love my king Excelsior. But I would trade it for a seyco because I like the table better Well, now you can buy the larger table for your King. Also, you might call Ray at Seyco and see what the possibility might be for adapting a Seyco table to your saw. ben2008 and Woodrush 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 8:59 PM, Woodrush said: I love my king Excelsior. But I would trade it for a seyco because I like the table better Pegas sells a table upgrade that will bolt right up to your saw provided you have the 21" model.. The table is the same size as the Seyco but it has no vacuum fitting or holes.. and it is coated with a tough epoxy coating.. both slick surface and very durable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrush Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: Pegas sells a table upgrade that will bolt right up to your saw provided you have the 21" model.. The table is the same size as the Seyco but it has no vacuum fitting or holes.. and it is coated with a tough epoxy coating.. both slick surface and very durable.. By the time I get it to Canada, it's close to 300$. My wife says no lol ben2008 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodrush Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 hours ago, octoolguy said: Well, now you can buy the larger table for your King. Also, you might call Ray at Seyco and see what the possibility might be for adapting a Seyco table to your saw. I talked to Tom Taylor. He sells saws for Ray in Ohio. He said the seyco table wouldn't go on his Excalibur OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted November 5, 2020 Report Share Posted November 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Woodrush said: I talked to Tom Taylor. He sells saws for Ray in Ohio. He said the seyco table wouldn't go on his Excalibur Well, you know that Pegas has brought a much bigger table. You might contact Denny Kneppen here on the Village. Seems like it's under $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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