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Dave Monk

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You wouldn't want my piping set up..  as it's a temporary set up going on 4 years now. 😂 I mainly wanted it for the planer and the bandsaw but intended to hook it up to many other machines.. I bought a tubing kit from HF which came with 2 10ft flex hoses some fittings, and plastic blast gates.. Good deal if you can get a 20% coupon to boot makes it a great place to buy.. Anyway, I just have the flex hose going to my planer and one clamped to my bandsaw.. use the planer more so I leave it hooked up on that and when I need to run the bandsaw I just swap the hose on the collector to the bandsaw, LOL One day I'll set up a more permanent system... Maybe, LOL  

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Dave, from what I have heard and/or read, you want to leave the feed/suction line as large as it is at the vac and neck it down as close to the pick up point as possible and try to keep the piping as large as you can. You want air flow volume so necking down too much destroys the suction. 6" down to 4" should work fine. But taking it down smaller might be detrimental to flow volume.

 

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My piping is a disaster! I keep meaning to redo it, but I just don't get the time anymore.

IMO - run the 6" out the port as far as you can. I run a sewer piper out of my HF 2hp unit along the ceiling.

When it reaches the first drop, I drop to 2" with a gate.

I need to run another hose line soon as I added a few tool carts since my first run. I'll probably swap out the sewer duct for PVC pipe and go that route for the whole run

Can't wait to see what you do!

 

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Which Jet did you order?

I have a Jet Vortex with the pleated filter I ran 4" PVC ducts. I have the unit in a different part of the basement than the majority of my shop to reduce the noise impact upstairs.  The end of the furthest run is ~30 ft. and that has a reducer to 2" for my Router table and I still have plenty of airflow. The critical fine dust generators like my pneumatic drum sander (intarsia) all have 4" drops. I use a handheld remote. I did not glue any of the joints because I am not sure if my layout is permanent as it is now. If need be I use the metallic AC duct tape not the other crap that always leaves a residue. My ceilings are low so the gates are easy to reach.

The pdf file is a rough layout of my current setup.  My table saw, drill press, Supermax drum sander and a small metal lathe are in the same room as my DC they are not in the drawing.

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basement workshop-Model r2.pdf

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3 hours ago, Rolf said:

Which Jet did you order?

I have a Jet Vortex with the pleated filter I ran 4" PVC ducts. I have the unit in a different part of the basement than the majority of my shop to reduce the noise impact upstairs.  The end of the furthest run is ~30 ft. and that has a reducer to 2" for my Router table and I still have plenty of airflow. The critical fine dust generators like my pneumatic drum sander (intarsia) all have 4" drops. I use a handheld remote. I did not glue any of the joints because I am not sure if my layout is permanent as it is now. If need be I use the metallic AC duct tape not the other crap that always leaves a residue. My ceilings are low so the gates are easy to reach.

The pdf file is a rough layout of my current setup.  My table saw, drill press, Supermax drum sander and a small metal lathe are in the same room as my DC they are not in the drawing.

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basement workshop-Model r2.pdf 395.35 kB · 3 downloads

Drum sander finished.jpg

Thanks for your help Rolf. This is what I ordered. https://www.rockler.com/jet-2hp-cyclone-dust-collector

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27 minutes ago, Dave Monk said:

I have quite a bit of equipment and I have been moving a shop vac with a cyclone bucket around and it is a major pain so I am anxious to get it all set up.  

Has the shop vac/cyclone bucket worked OK, other than moving a pia?

I've got a WEN 3410 on order to clean the breathing aspect. I'm also looking at a HF/ Central Mach. 2 HP 1500cfm collector. Not sure of the real need for a 1. canister filter to replace bag, 2. 4" Dust Deputy setup to drop out larger stuff B4 going in the collector.

 

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I think that will get the job done! you may need to anchor yourself to the floor. 😵 

Regarding the canister filters vs bag the bad stuff is the fine stuff! so if you are going to the trouble putting in a centralized system, in  my opinion, a canister filter is a must. 

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Hi, Dave,
I can't help much but, I wanted to say that I am impressed with the number of people on the forum
that took time for photos and info to help out.
I have the Central Machinery from Harbor Freight seen here Dust Collector - Great Deals on Dust Collectors at Harbor Freight

It could be moved around easily enough if need be but, I just ran one suction hose to a large drum so heavy pieces drop to the bottom
of that and then another hose coming out of that to the equipment I am using.
I also have a second hose coming from the other fitting on the dust collector that can be moved from one machine to another without the
barrel between.

Good luck with your set up and God Bless!
Your friend, Spirithorse Bob

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