danny Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 Cold n Windy out yonder yesterday. Dislike the Spray of the Spray Glue. Seems to drift towards me. LOL Anyway I gave GORILLA GLUE STICK a try and By George I think it worked Great. Just some on the painters tape and back of pattern. Stuck it on and soon drilled the lil started holes. Finished the project and Worked out Perfectly. Pattern stayed stuck and never lifted. :+} Of course at $4 a tube at Walmart would be pretty Expensive to use in the long run. Danny :+} John B and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 I've used glue sticks for small patterns and, yes, it does work. I used Elmer's though. danny and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 I have also used elmers glue sticks when i was useing painters tape and it worked great. IKE danny and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 Full sheet shipping labels work better than plain paper and spray glues.. I've been doing the shipping label method for about 6 years now.. still need painters tape or shelf liner.. shipping labels are made to not fall off packages so they also won't fall off the wood.. nor peel off if stuck directly to the wood.. OCtoolguy and don watson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted December 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 Full sheet shipping labels work better than plain paper and spray glues.. I've been doing the shipping label method for about 6 years now.. still need painters tape or shelf liner.. shipping labels are made to not fall off packages so they also won't fall off the wood.. nor peel off if stuck directly to the wood.. Howdy and your brought back Happy Memories. Most of my working life I worked in a PRINT SHOP. So when I Retired Way back then had whats called CRACK N PEEL. Sounds like same as what your saying. AND YES.... that was my Beginning of Scrolling then and I use it till it was USED UP. Checked into the cost of buying and was just to Expensive for my budget. Anyway I have used about All the Methods for securing a pattern to a blank of wood.... So how bout leading me onto where you buy your Shipping Labels Stock.... Tks Danny OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, danny said: Full sheet shipping labels work better than plain paper and spray glues.. I've been doing the shipping label method for about 6 years now.. still need painters tape or shelf liner.. shipping labels are made to not fall off packages so they also won't fall off the wood.. nor peel off if stuck directly to the wood.. Howdy and your brought back Happy Memories. Most of my working life I worked in a PRINT SHOP. So when I Retired Way back then had whats called CRACK N PEEL. Sounds like same as what your saying. AND YES.... that was my Beginning of Scrolling then and I use it till it was USED UP. Checked into the cost of buying and was just to Expensive for my budget. Anyway I have used about All the Methods for securing a pattern to a blank of wood.... So how bout leading me onto where you buy your Shipping Labels Stock.... Tks Danny Danny, I bought mine on Amazon, I found a package of 100 8.5 x 11 for under $10. I didn't think that was too outrageous when you compare to the price of blue tape. I wrap whatever I'm cutting with packing tape and then the label. I buy the cheapest packing tape I can find. Usually at the $1 store. danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, danny said: Full sheet shipping labels work better than plain paper and spray glues.. I've been doing the shipping label method for about 6 years now.. still need painters tape or shelf liner.. shipping labels are made to not fall off packages so they also won't fall off the wood.. nor peel off if stuck directly to the wood.. Howdy and your brought back Happy Memories. Most of my working life I worked in a PRINT SHOP. So when I Retired Way back then had whats called CRACK N PEEL. Sounds like same as what your saying. AND YES.... that was my Beginning of Scrolling then and I use it till it was USED UP. Checked into the cost of buying and was just to Expensive for my budget. Anyway I have used about All the Methods for securing a pattern to a blank of wood.... So how bout leading me onto where you buy your Shipping Labels Stock.... Tks Danny Ah, CRACK N PEEL. I owned a commercial printing plant for 30 years. Ran through many thousands of reams of that stuff. danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Welp, as Ray said.. you can get the stuff fairly cheap depending upon where you search for it at.. Yes pricey at the local office supply store etc.. But there are some really reasonable sources online.. I buy 1000 sheets at a time.. usually once a year.. but that's probably a lot overkill for the average hobbyist.. I recently found this place.. have not yet purchased from them so I do not know how they are to deal with.. But since you was in the business with this stuff you might know better what is a cheaper material etc to select.. They sell only in 100 + quantiles.. and I've seen it for around $12.. Not sure how many pages you get from a spray can of adhesive.. I know I used to go through about 5-6 cans a year.. and the stuff I bought was at least $13 a can.. add in the paper that use print the pattern on.. the cans of glue.. the sticky fingers and thumbs.. the messy overspray that can leaves all over your spraying area.. I know not everyone sees it from the same angle I do.. but as a production cutter.. there is time involved in shaking the can of adhesive.. spray it bla bla bla.. you get the idea.. Print peel and stick is what works for me.. I see it as cheaper than paper when I calculate all the variables into the equation.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzarkSawdust Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 I use : Duck Brand 1115496 Peel N' Stick Laminate Adhesive Shelf Liner, 12-Inch x 36-Feet, Clear from Amazon or Walmart, it coat about $6 for a 12" x 36' roll. Then print the pattern on the label, as others mentioned, and slap it on. Easy and works. WARNING: I used another brand once when I stopped at a Target...it didn't stick as well and left a sticky residue I had to sand off. Use Duck brand! Kevin told me about this method a year ago...thanks again Kevin, best tip I've got so far! kmmcrafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsN Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 I have never used the gorilla glue sticks, but I do use regular Elmer's glue sticks to stick my patterns down. I gave up on spray glue many years ago, Minnesota winters plus needing to go outside to glue equals no fun! John B, danny and OzarkSawdust 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Fengstad Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 I have 8x10 labels from a office supply store, expensive , sticks like poop to a blanket and difficult to remove from bare wood. Was using clear removable shelf liner or painters tape but lately both items pulled wood fibre ( might be quality of of the bb) when removing so went back to spray glue and use heat or paint thinners to remove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Norm Fengstad said: I have 8x10 labels from a office supply store, expensive , sticks like poop to a blanket and difficult to remove from bare wood. Was using clear removable shelf liner or painters tape but lately both items pulled wood fibre ( might be quality of of the bb) when removing so went back to spray glue and use heat or paint thinners to remove. I've had issues with the shelf liner sticking if a project has been sitting for several weeks.. and you can use a heat gun with the labels or shelf liner.. For what it's worth.. in a pinch I've heated up a label on a box to remove it so I could use the box to ship out orders in.. I save all the boxes I get stuff sent to me in..so long as they are a nice clean box with no branding or markings on them.. the labels peel right off of a box with the heat gun.. I've not been brave enough to try on wood with several fret cuts in it.. might not peel off as good so I use the liner paper too.. but as I said.. have used heat on the liner stuff and it peels up nicely.. if it's stuck good from sitting a few weeks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrscroller Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 HI all I want to try the shipping lable method, but what do I do if I only have say a 4 x 4 ornament to print out, how do I use the rest of the blank space on that sheet after it comes out of my laser printer with only that on the sheet? I need to be able to use the whole sheet otherwise its a waste of money for me. Thanks Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 In my case I production cut.. so I typically will put several ornaments on one sheet.. I usually do this by using the picture viewer in windows 10 and I crop pattern so it's just a small square around the ornament and save it that way.. Then when I need to print some I go to where the pattern is saved.. I don't open the saved icon.. I right mouse click and hit print.. a pop-up comes up with photo print size options.. I choose the appropriate one and select fit to page if needed ( check box at bottom ) I usually select a quantity of 4 which is the 3.5 x 5 photo size layout.. That will print 4 of them on one sheet.. That is a issue if you only want one ornament though.. In that case I try to make the ornament print at the top and cut the paper in half.. use the other half the next time I need just a half sheet size.. Sometimes I'll print only selecting a quantity of two.. then choose a different ornament and reinsert the paper to print two more on the other end.. This may not be practical for everyone.. But then I have to say.. do you waist a sheet of paper too.. I realize paper is cheaper than the label.. for me before using the labels.. I've always tried to make use of the whole paper.. Also the labels don't work too well for large projects.. I still use plain paper and spray glue etc.. but not very often I use patterns that are larger than a standard sheet of paper so.. the majority of the time it works for me.. danny and OzarkSawdust 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) I always use glue sticks on blue masking tape to hold patterns. They are cheap and last quite awhile and I have never had any problems with the pattern coming unstuck. I have the same problem when using pressure pack contact, it seems to be attracted to me and I end up with sticky arms etc. Edited December 8, 2020 by John B OzarkSawdust and kmmcrafts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don watson Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 I buy whole sheet A4 sized shipping labels on EBay, usually boxes of 100. Can't remember the price but pretty cheap. But, here's the thing, I always sand the face of the plywood to 420 grit before applying it straight on to the wood. When it comes to removing, a QUICK wipe with Turps Substitute, leave for 2 minutes if needed and then peel. Job done. I have noticed that if the surface of the ply is NOT sanded and left as is from the maker, when peeling the paper it tends to lift slivers of the wood. I have attached a pic of the latest piece I made. It was designed, printed, stuck on the ply (after sanding) and cut, pattern removed and glued up all in one day. I was happy with that as at 80 + years old I don't get about the way I used to. It is made from 1/4" Birch Ply and about 200mm (8") in diameter. take care and stay safe Don W danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) This is the ones I buy, the seller might have smaller quantities.. but I've had good luck with this seller and brand.. have used some others that worked okay but somethings some didn't stick real well, and they was cheap.. could have been seconds or something I don't know or remember.. These ones here do have a 1/16 inch backer overhang so the actual sticky paper is not quite a full 8.5 inch wide.. most patterns don't print clear to the edge of the paper anyway so I've never had a issue.. These ones also have the full back that peels off.. I suppose if you wanted to use that back as a pattern and use spray glue for it you might get two times the amount of paper from it, LOL The back piece might work will for gluing projects on.. kinda like a wax paper https://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Shipping-Labels-Full-Sheet-8-5x11-Self-Adhesive-PACKZON/172818314778?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Edited December 8, 2020 by kmmcrafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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