J-M Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 As I'm approaching retirement age in a few years (probably never retire), I started to buy a few woodworking tools for basic carpentry needs. As I was exploring bandsaws and realizing that I wont be making kitchen cabinets anytime soon and my need for resawing may be quite limited, I started looking at scroll saws and discovering all the cool little stuff I could be making for the grand kids. I could likely use a scroll saw to shape the contours of furniture armchairs (Adirondack chairs) and create patterns in the seat back or arms. I've been doing some research on scroll saws. I'm set on a flat table and moving arm. And all the brands of moving arms seem to be made by the same manufacturer in Taiwan except the whole confusion about the name and unit built by GI in China - Excalibur / Excelsor. Great article on this community which is what brought me here in the first place and I've discovered a wealth of information. Noteworthy, Pégas scroll saw isn't on your list of scroll saws - and the optional long table (more room in front of the blade is a strong contender.). For me, Seyco is out because they don't have the rack and pinion tilt and I can't see myself fussing around to make angle adjustments or building a rack and pinion like Steve Good has done. Still need to look at Jet, ... and maybe others. Excited at the possibilities and love those 3D scrollsaw designs. Stay safe everyone! J-M heppnerguy and amazingkevin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don in brooklin on Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Welcome to the village. Where in the great white north. I am in Brooklin Ontario just East of Toronto. I have an older Excalibur that was built by General before the great confusion set in. I love my EX-21 and have used most every day for last 10 years. If I was looking today in Canada I would be looking at the King. Made in same shop at the EX-21. It comes in 16, 21 and 30. Pegas would be a strong contender except for the cost. Pegas 1075+foot pedal (46) plus stand (113) plus HST + delivery King 21 999 (foot pedal included) + $100 stand + HST ( depending where you are you may be able to pick up). J-M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Welcome to the Village from the Never White South...the East Coast of Central Florida to be exact. The 21" Pegas scroll saw is very popular with many member in this forum including myself. Great Saw for the price. Contact Dennis Knappen at artcraftersscrollsaw@gmail.com , he is one of our members and is a supplier of the Pegas saw. You can't beat his pricing. Shoud yo purchas a Pegas, do your self a favor and get the Pegas stand. Very sturdy and well worth the price. Tow other important things to get from day one is a Foot Switch and a bright high magnification LED extension arm lamp. You wont be sorry. J-M and amazingkevin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Welcome to the forum! I hope you find the saw that meets all your needs and I hope it serves you well. I do not like the blade clamps on any of the saws I have looked at in the past year or so and probably won't be buying a new saw until mine completely gives out or some company actually makes a simple, worth-while adjustment to their clamping system and keeps the saw at a reasonable price. God Bless! Spirithorse J-M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-M Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 @FrankEVlooks like Dennis has gone through some tough days lately. For 12 days, I was sick, entered ER and hospital diagnosed with Covid19. After 14 days quarantine, I am back in the saddle at ArtCrafters if only for short days. 11 am to 2 pm eastern time Tuesday through Friday. Quote amazingkevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-M Posted December 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 @don in brooklin on the Excelsior KXL21/100 is a contender and available within an hour drive. I’m in the Lower Laurentians. I also see it advertised at $999 pedal included and online at Atlas-Machinery located just west of you for the same price. Going to wait it out to see if anyone has a Boxing Day special as I missed the Black Friday deals. amazingkevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don in brooklin on Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Atlas Machinery are good people to deal with but you will have to deal with Shipping. There are lots of King Canada dealers and service centers (especially in PQ). I think the $999 price is by King it is in there flyer but you never know. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveww1 Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 welcome to the village Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 Welcome !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 welcome to the village from East Tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted December 15, 2020 Report Share Posted December 15, 2020 If I was buying a new saw it would be a Pegas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted December 16, 2020 Report Share Posted December 16, 2020 Welcome friend!!!! I like how you shoot from the hip and say your mind! In fact you opened up a can of worms that I'm thankful for! I never knew or thought about scroll saws the way you do!!! I've gone thru plenty of scroll saws so your explanation set me straight on saws I've never wore out!! I'm going to be excited to see what saw your going to have fun with. I'll be saving pennies now so i can upgrade to the saw of your liking and does something for you!!! Your fitting in here just like a glove!!!! You now have a follower!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-M Posted December 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 @daveww1 @amazingkevin@robertamoreton @meflick Thank you for the welcome message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Welcome to the Village forum from Tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklingel Posted December 19, 2020 Report Share Posted December 19, 2020 I looked at artcrafter and don't see how to order a saw. All I can see listed for sale are blades. What did I miss? Not selling saws any more? j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 WELCOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Welcome to The Village.. I see you are not someone that jumps into things without doing your homework first. I did see where Denny has his phone number on his Pagus page, you might give him a call and ask him about the saw. Also Amazon has the Jet on sale with free shipping right now, you may want to take a peak at that soon. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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