Popular Post Frank Pellow Posted January 22, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 I very much like the quote about morality by H. L. Menkin. It's been a "tag line" in my posts here for some time. Last week, I decided to make a pattern for it, to cut it, apply a finish to it, frame it: And to hang it along with other quotes that I try to live by in my office: I think we all need to be guided by what I believe is the basic goodness of most people rather than blindly following the dictates of religions and cults. Getting back to the piece itself. It is cut from 3mm thick Baltic Birch plywood and backed by the same. The frame is of 1/4-sawn White Oak painted flat black. Wilson142, FrankEV, Foxfold and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveww1 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 terrific job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjR Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 I have to agree- great work & a very true statement! Oak is too nice to paint though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wombatie Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Whatever makes you think can't be bad. Great work. Marg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frank Pellow Posted May 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) This is proving to be quite popular. I've now made five of them in total and, just this week, two of my nieces saw a photo of the one that I made for another niece and asked me to make one for each of them as well. Other than my our annual year-end greeting cards, I will have cut more of this design than of any other. Edited May 21, 2021 by Frank Pellow CSull 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Fengstad Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 You do nice work and display it well, I will have to think about the statement "Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right." H. L. Mencken". I attend a church for worship and praise to God, read the Bible. That is where the base for my morality come from. If I were to develop my own standard for morality ---- well that could be scary . Just saying I really appreciate you, your quality of workmanship and look forward to more of your postings Rockytime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie E Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Great job! I really don't feel it is that controversial of a statement. While I am a Christian, I totally agree with the message of your piece. From what I understand Jesus himself wasn't a fan of religion. Most of the people he had a problem with were religious leaders who tried to get people to follow all of their manmade rules and felt they were better than others because of all their outward piousness while they were rotten on the inside. One of my favorite verses is 1 Corinthians 13:13 "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love" which seems to indicate "Love is more important than faith." I also agree with your statement about not blindly following dictates that don't ring true in your heart. Thanks for sharing your work. Frank Pellow and Norm Fengstad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Pellow Posted May 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Norm Fengstad said: You do nice work and display it well, I will have to think about the statement "Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right." H. L. Mencken". I attend a church for worship and praise to God, read the Bible. That is where the base for my morality come from. If I were to develop my own standard for morality ---- well that could be scary . Just saying I really appreciate you, your quality of workmanship and look forward to more of your postings I thank you for you complements on my work. It appears that you are struggling with H.L Menchen's quote. I guess your struggle is because, for you, Morality is derived from Religion. The difficulty is that one can derive different moral guidelines from different religions and even from different interpretations of the same religion. I prefer to think that Morality comes from the basic Decency and Goodness of most humans. Then, I couple that with Common Sense. Edited May 21, 2021 by Frank Pellow Norm Fengstad and Old Joe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) I have no argument about the cutting, it is well done, and if that is your/anyones belief, OK. I'm just not sure it is appropriate to envoke it in this kind of forum...kinda like politics..to me a no no. However I must state something about the words used in the quote. I firmly believe there is NO SUCH THING as "Right" (or "Wrong") in a pure morality sense. Right and wrong are only concepts defined by laws (supposedly for the good of the people) and/or long standing and varying cultures from all over. All of which the people have created in an attempt to define what their beiefs teach. I do believe there is a thing called "Good", which I can accept as a morality virtue. Its counterpart, often reffered to as "Evil" is simply the absence of Good. Sort of like Heat and Cold. We know sicentifically that there is really no such thing as cold as it is only the absence of Heat. This may be a subject for discussion at another place and time...but probably not on this site! With that being said, I - only me - do not find the quote to have any basis in truism or fact and my belief has abolutely nothing to do with religion or politics. Please, lets keep this forum strickly about Scroll work! Edited May 21, 2021 by FrankEV preprius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Fengstad Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 23 hours ago, Frank Pellow said: I thank you for you complements on my work. It appears that you are struggling with H.L Menchen's quote. I guess your struggle is because, for you, Morality is derived from Religion. The difficulty is that one can derive different moral guidelines from different religions and even from different interpretations of the same religion. I prefer to think that Morality comes from the basic Decency and Goodness of most humans. Then, I couple that with Common Sense. Can't say I really struggled with the quote, it did get me thinking about the topic,although only for a short while. After I hit the submit reply button I realized this is not the venue to discuss opinions other than about our hobby. Something like squeezing to much toothpaste onto the brush you can't put the extra back into the tube. FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Fengstad Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 20 hours ago, FrankEV said: I have no argument about the cutting, it is well done, and if that is your/anyones belief, OK. I'm just not sure it is appropriate to envoke it in this kind of forum...kinda like politics..to me a no no. However I must state something about the words used in the quote. I firmly believe there is NO SUCH THING as "Right" (or "Wrong") in a pure morality sense. Right and wrong are only concepts defined by laws (supposedly for the good of the people) and/or long standing and varying cultures from all over. All of which the people have created in an attempt to define what their beiefs teach. I do believe there is a thing called "Good", which I can accept as a morality virtue. Its counterpart, often reffered to as "Evil" is simply the absence of Good. Sort of like Heat and Cold. We know sicentifically that there is really no such thing as cold as it is only the absence of Heat. This may be a subject for discussion at another place and time...but probably not on this site! With that being said, I - only me - do not find the quote to have any basis in truism or fact and my belief has abolutely nothing to do with religion or politics. Please, lets keep this forum strickly about Scroll work! you are absolutely right this is not the venue to discuss these type of things. I appreciate your comments have a good day and happy scrolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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