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Glue removal


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After nearly 10 years at scrolling I had a sudden revelation about glue. If I leave a pattern stuck to the various pieces for a while [days and days] then I can peel off the pattern without leaving residue on the wood, whereas if I peel the paper off within a few minutes then I usually end up with residue on the wood.

I use masking tape to line the wood, then spray glue onto the pattern and place on the wood. If I'm in the mode I can start cutting that piece after about 10 minutes. If I peel that pattern after cutting all the pieces then I will have lots of residue but if I've left the pattern stuck to the wood over a weekend there will be very little if any residue on the wood.

I discovered all this during the week when I cut 16 Alex Fox layered patterns in 4 sessions of stack cutting. These are Christmas patterns which I'm cutting for next Christmas. I've thought a lot about why and I reckon its a lot to do with the lockdown and the isolation as much as its the fact that I enjoy this particular pattern.  

 Anyway after the first session I cleaned up the wood right after finishing the pattern, and was disappointed to find residue, Then with the next three sessions I left the paper removal till I had finished all of them and no residue.

I had thought that I was using a too light masking tape but now I don't think so.

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My process is about the same as yours.  I use the Blue Painters Tape then spray the pattern attach and cut. I can peel it off as soon as I am done. Never had an issue with residue. I would try the blue painters tape. I have used regular masking take, the brown / tan stuff and had issues with it coming off cleanly in other areas of woodworking. Let us know if you try this and how it works out.

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I put a light coat of glue on the wood then add the pattern ( no tape is used) when I get the wood cut I wipe the pattern with a damp rag with mineral sperits and the pattern pattern almost falla=s off. I then take the dampend rag with meneral sperits and wipe the board and no glue residue . It's much easier than useing blue painters tape and a lot cheeper with less work.

IKE

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Interesting about the aging of the glue on the wood regarding residue.  Thanks for sharing.
I know that Alex Fox layered patterns are very intricate (and beautiful).  I am sure that they will be a big hit.
Residue has not been in my cross hairs as a problem yet but I haven't done anything like an Alex Fox pattern either Lol!

Normally when I spray a finished project with denatured alcohol, the pattern instantly peels off as a single piece with near zero resistance no matter how intricate it is
BUT, I have found that not all glues dissolve like that.  There is only one type of spray glue that I am aware of that reliably dissolves with alcohol.

I have seen all sorts of methods people use to apply and remove patterns when I watch YouTube videos.  
I started out armed with Steve Good's old videos that used a hot air gun to release the glue from the wood. 
Then he suggested using contact paper.  Now he uses Blue tape.

A bit of the back story of how I came about to use alcohol to release my spray glue;
One day last year I discovered in an R/C forum that alcohol releases the adhesion of hot glue so I decided to test that with my spray adhesive and found it was hit and miss.
When it worked it was amazing but when it didn't I would have to resort to mineral spirits to get the pattern off (which I hate).
What was even more amazing was that the exact same brand of glue worked if it was new stock and failed it it was vintage stuff I had laying around from years ago.. I am guessing perhaps the spray glue company changed up their formula at some point.
So I know of one glue that has been well behaved in this regard and as long as it continues to work I will probably stick with it (Pun intended Lol) 
Not sure what the down side is yet.
Sorry for the length of this reply.

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22 hours ago, ike said:

I put a light coat of glue on the wood then add the pattern ( no tape is used) when I get the wood cut I wipe the pattern with a damp rag with mineral sperits and the pattern pattern almost falla=s off. I then take the dampend rag with meneral sperits and wipe the board and no glue residue . It's much easier than useing blue painters tape and a lot cheeper with less work.

IKE

I use the mineral spirits method when I am making something delicate or prone to pulling off fibers when using tape. It works very well. The only downsides I have found are that I need to wait until the mineral spirits evaporate and handling the chemical itself.

I have found that if I flood the pattern with solvent, there is very little glue remaining on the wood. If I lightly wet the pattern, I will need to come back with a solvent soaked towel and remove the remaining glue. If any glue remains, it can affect the finish.

I have tried every method I have seen or heard of for attaching patterns to wood. Tape remains my favorite.

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