ike Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 I went to my lumber a=yard to get some BB ply and they were out so Idd3ecded to look around. they had a staack of 8 ft popular marked down to $275 pr board ft. Well wlhat can I get it for he said tat there was a little over 50 BF.and I could have it for $125 I agreed tp that and bought 8 ft of 6" soft maple for $37 I knew I had a good deal and I figured it out @ 53 board ft . They were of random with 3<5 the smallest and 12" the largest, any way I got the 53BF for $2.35 a BF at regulaar price they would have been $165.00 IKE lawson56, Dan, new2woodwrk and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, ike said: I went to my lumber a=yard to get some BB ply and they were out so Idd3ecded to look around. they had a staack of 8 ft popular marked down to $275 pr board ft. Well wlhat can I get it for he said tat there was a little over 50 BF.and I could have it for $125 I agreed tp that and bought 8 ft of 6" soft maple for $37 I knew I had a good deal and I figured it out @ 53 board ft . They were of random with 3<5 the smallest and 12" the largest, any way I got the 53BF for $2.35 a BF at regulaar price they would have been $165.00 IKE Ike, do you ever proofread your posts? I follow everything you write but at times it's very difficult. Please don't take offense. Just a suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 I don't understand board feet. So what exactly did you buy? new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, Rockytime said: I don't understand board feet. So what exactly did you buy? Les, one board foot is 144 square inches. 12 x 12 x 1" or any multiple? of that. Say 6" wide by 24" long by 1" thick is one board foot. Rockytime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 My local lumber yard is $2.10 board ft.. I bought 118bdft in Dec. my total was $247 That said, I only get that price because of two reasons.. First being if you buy over 100bdft they discount the price.. and the other reason is if you spend a certain amount with them every year they put you in different price brackets for the year.. I spent $8000 with them so my price bracket puts me in at real low price points. Normal 1/8 BB ply runs near $16 per 5 x 5 sheet.. my price is $11.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Nice buy, I pay 2.75 bft regularly! I have the formula on my phone so when I go to my local shop I can check them as they add @Rockytime Board feet IMO has several interpretations... Board feet = length(ft) * width(in) * thickness(in) / 12 Example: 16' x 9.75" x 1" / 12 = 13 board feet However, many lumber yards will use a simpler calculation (it assumes boards to be 1" thick) length (in) x width (in) / 144 192" x 9.75 = 13 board feet You'll notice that if you use the top calc with a 3/4" board which is an actual size the board feet is significantly lower - 9.75 board feet https://www.southernpine.com/lumber-calculator/ https://www.omnicalculator.com/construction/board-foot OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 4 hours ago, ike said: I went to my lumber a=yard to get some BB ply and they were out so Idd3ecded to look around. they had a staack of 8 ft popular marked down to $275 pr board ft. Well wlhat can I get it for he said tat there was a little over 50 BF.and I could have it for $125 I agreed tp that and bought 8 ft of 6" soft maple for $37 I knew I had a good deal and I figured it out @ 53 board ft . They were of random with 3<5 the smallest and 12" the largest, any way I got the 53BF for $2.35 a BF at regulaar price they would have been $165.00 IKE Was that at Paxton's? It's been a while since I've been there. It may be time to take another trip. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted February 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 of corse Paxtons IKE OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, new2woodwrk said: Nice buy, I pay 2.75 bft regularly! I have the formula on my phone so when I go to my local shop I can check them as they add @Rockytime Board feet IMO has several interpretations... Board feet = length(ft) * width(in) * thickness(in) / 12 Example: 16' x 9.75" x 1" / 12 = 13 board feet However, many lumber yards will use a simpler calculation (it assumes boards to be 1" thick) length (in) x width (in) / 144 192" x 9.75 = 13 board feet You'll notice that if you use the top calc with a 3/4" board which is an actual size the board feet is significantly lower - 9.75 board feet https://www.southernpine.com/lumber-calculator/ https://www.omnicalculator.com/construction/board-foot Isn't you second calculation "liner foot" as oppose to "board foot"... Liner foot is just length x width and usually assumes 1" thick but in reality is usually 3/4" thick.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockytime Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 4 hours ago, octoolguy said: Les, one board foot is 144 square inches. 12 x 12 x 1" or any multiple? of that. Say 6" wide by 24" long by 1" thick is one board foot. Oh, that's simple Ray. It has to be for me! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Rockytime said: Oh, that's simple Ray. It has to be for me! Don't cut yourself down Les. You're the guy who can fix/build clocks and who knows what else on your machinist equipment. I wouldn't know where to start on that. Rockytime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kywoodmaster Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) Board footage is figured on the rough stock size (before it goes thru the planer). A board 6" wide x24" long x 1" thick which will actually be 3/4" will be priced as 1 board foot. A board that is 6" wide x24" long x2" thick which is actually 1.5 inches will be sold as 2 board feet. Should also add that hard woods are sold by the 1/4 thickness. A one inch board is considered 4/4 a two inch board is considered 8/4 a 1.5 inch board before it is planed is 6/4 which would net you out to about 1 1/8" thick after planing. Edited February 26, 2021 by kywoodmaster added info. OCtoolguy and new2woodwrk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 20 hours ago, Scrappile said: Isn't you second calculation "liner foot" as oppose to "board foot"... Liner foot is just length x width and usually assumes 1" thick but in reality is usually 3/4" thick.. Nope - linear foot here is price times length - thickness doesn't matter - that's how they calculate it here I get Pine by the linear foot - 2.45 per foot OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted February 26, 2021 Report Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, new2woodwrk said: Nope - linear foot here is price times length - thickness doesn't matter - that's how they calculate it here I get Pine by the linear foot - 2.45 per foot What if you want to buy a piece 2 feet long and 4 inches thick by 6 inches wide? Are you saying that it would be $2.45 for each foot? That makes no sense. I'll bet you are paying $2.45 per board foot. I'd like to see how they calculate your cost on a board 6" wide x 1" thick by 10 feet long. If what you are saying, you'd only pay $24.50. Is that right? Edited February 26, 2021 by octoolguy new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) octoolguy described a BF correctly early on herein. However, a BF is usualy based on rough sawn dimensions. So when you pay by the BF for say "a dressed 1X6" you are paying for the waste and getting only 3/4 X 5 1/2. Lumber yards that sell dressed lumber ususally sell by the LF (linear foot) and the price per LF may vary based on the length of boards available. Some specially lumber providers sell rough sawn material priced by the BF for the various spiecies. This can be quite cheap but they will charge for planing services over and above the BF price. This can be as much as an extra $1/bf. Rough sawn is only great if you own a planer and can plane you own material to the thicknesses you want. You really can not equate BF prices to stock dressed lumber, but need to compare LF pricing. Edited February 27, 2021 by FrankEV OCtoolguy and NC Scroller 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) A BOARD 6" WIDE x 1" THICKx10' LONG IS 5 BOARD ft. @ $2.45 IS $12,25, THAT IS WHY I THINK I GOT A GREAT DEAL. IKE Edited February 27, 2021 by ike new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 MOST BOARDS i BUY ARE ROUGH PLANED TO ABOUT .900" THE BOARDS I BOUGHT ON THIS ORDER WERE FINISHED PLAINED TO .750 IKE OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodmaster1 Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 I buy lumber at the same place as Kevin. I got that kind of prices when I bought 1000bdft of quartersawn red oak and 350 bdft of poplar. I don't get the big discount anymore haven't spent a lot lately. kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Woodmaster1 said: I buy lumber at the same place as Kevin. I got that kind of prices when I bought 1000bdft of quartersawn red oak and 350 bdft of poplar. I don't get the big discount anymore haven't spent a lot lately. Right, It's hard to get into those price brackets unless you buy a lot of tools and or lumber.. LOL.. having this CNC helps me spend a lot of money with them.. buying bits, add-ons etc... and you can scrap a lot of lumber in one day if you don't know how to use the CNC correctly.. also can scrap $50 - 75 bits in 2 seconds if you don't know what you're doing.. don't ask how I know these things.. Not really wanting to tell the stories, Hahahaha.. Lately I've made a lot of high dollar campfire wood.. should have plenty of wood to have smores every night this summer.. probably should start burning now so I can get rid of it all, LOL OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 We don't camp any more, so I give all my scrap wood ( too small to make anything with) to my neighbor who has a weekly camp fire in his back yard for his kids and grandkids he dond't care how small they are they all burn. so;me times he gets a lot and some times he don't get much. IKE OCtoolguy and kmmcrafts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) On 2/26/2021 at 3:43 PM, octoolguy said: What if you want to buy a piece 2 feet long and 4 inches thick by 6 inches wide? Are you saying that it would be $2.45 for each foot? That makes no sense. I'll bet you are paying $2.45 per board foot. I'd like to see how they calculate your cost on a board 6" wide x 1" thick by 10 feet long. If what you are saying, you'd only pay $24.50. Is that right? Here is the last board I purchased 2 weeks ago (going tomorrow for a refill ) Poplar 16' x 9.75" cost = $27.15 Edited March 1, 2021 by new2woodwrk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, new2woodwrk said: Here is the last board I purchased 2 weeks ago (going tomorrow for a refill ) Poplar 16' x 9.75" cost = $27.15 By my calculations that's $2.09 a board foot. new2woodwrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted March 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 That comes to about $2.10 per board ft. That's a good buy IKE new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 I was told today price is going up for poplar Today I paid 2.57 bf for a 15' x 12" x 13/16 - they planed it free OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Scroller Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Wood prices are through the roof and likely to go a lot higher. Supply vs Demand. new2woodwrk and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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