kmmcrafts Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 What method would you pro's use to hang larger heavier woodwork pieces. I've searched around on Etsy looking at what the others do.. but I've seen everything and nothing, LOL.. This isn't really scroll saw related since I'm talking about hanging larger signs, flags etc. that I route on my CNC. I already have several folks wanting one of these flags shown in the photo.. But this piece is 26 x 13 x 3/4 inches.. Made from Maple.. so it's a lot heavier than the typical scroll saw stuff I make that hangs and I typically used sawtooth hangers on those.. In my searching on Etsy I found sawtooth hangers ( mind you they are making theirs from pine which might be lighter ) or wire.. MOST of the listings I run upon didn't show or tell how to hang it.. Amazing how little some sellers describe their items.. yet get sales.. For my heavier scroll sawn items which is very few of them.. I use the D hook hangers instead of the sawtooth. I always thought they was a little more robust.. Was kind of thinking of these on each end of the sign.. for two hanging points.. but that might be too difficult for some to get to hang straight. Also thought about just having the CNC drill two holes clear through to use a leather or? strap to hang from above. So what's your thoughts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Hi Kevin. I would use what us framers use, D - Handers and coated wire. If the project is under 25 pounds, the item listed on the website would work. Let me know if you want a pack for heavier projects. John B, kmmcrafts, Roberta Moreton and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson River Rick Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Kevin, in a former life---in a distant galaxy ( sorry, I couldn't pass that opportunity up), I owned and operated a very succesful picture frame / art gallery business. We offered an option to hand purchases for our customers and to this day I operate my business from my home shop. We hung mirrors that weighed up to 80 Lbs and we used a product call Z-Bar. This no more than a metal version of a french cleat system that has been around for a long time. The idea is that one piece of the hanger gets attached to the wall, hope fully using the wall studs, and the other piece gets attached to the artwork and then gets locked into the piece on the wall. I purchase this product from my picture framing suppliers, it is also available from United Manufacturers. Hope this was helpful and not confusing. Best to you Rick JustLarry, tomsteve, munzieb and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) This is a verion of what HRRick was talking about available from Lowes. Rated at 75#, but I know it will hold more as long as it is secured into a stud, Two can be used if the hanging piece is wide. I used two to hang a Booze rack which holds abut 20+ full size bottles of Licquer (mostly cordials if you must knnow). Has been on the wall almost 7 years with no problems. What is nice about this system is that it is nearly a flush mounting with no outward lean. If the back of the hanging pice can be routed out slightly it can be made perfectly flush. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hillman-6-in-Hangman-Picture-Hanging-System/3058191 Edited March 27, 2021 by FrankEV tomsteve, Roberta Moreton and JustLarry 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgman Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 For smaller items I use D hangers. Actually, they are triangle shaped, but same thing. For heavier items, I use a key hole bit in my router table to cut key hole slots. As long as your backer board is at least 1/2” thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiloquinruss Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 What I use for hanging heavy items is called a "french cleat". It's really pretty simple as the attached video will show. The pix is of a sign at our club. It is an eight footer made from 4 sheets of ply! Quite heavy but it made the hanging a snap. Russ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFvced0deZ8 poupster2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don in brooklin on Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 I like to use flush mount hangers. They will hold a lot of weight and look good as the picture is very close to the wall. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2woodwrk Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 I have several heavy items I've hung on walls. I have used the same method on all of them, although using various hangers The common thread for all of them is a type of French Cleat system and finding the wall studs - wall studs being the most important piece for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flarud Posted March 28, 2021 Report Share Posted March 28, 2021 I use coated picture hanging wire. Depending on the thickness and weight of the piece, I use a #8 screw with a 1" fender washer on it, screw them in part way on both sides, wrap some picture hanging wire around them, screw them in the rest of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) I also vote for the French cleat. Not self leveling like wire, but very secure. Edited March 29, 2021 by Jim McDonald Damned autocorrect BadBob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBob Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 +1 for the French cleat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted March 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 The French Cleat seems like a bit of overkill for what I'm looking to do.. remember these are going to be hung up by customers.. many may not understand how that system works.. I would definitely do this if it were very heavy.. When I said these are heavy.. I meant more that they are much heavier than the typical plaque that I normally just use a sawtooth hanger on. I'd guess this thing is less than 5lb. probably closer to 3-4.. I'm thinking about using the coated wire as Deny suggested. I have a boatload of these D hangers both smaller and some pretty large ones. Thanks everyone for your thoughts / suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson River Rick Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 RESET You're correct, the last thing you need is Z-BAR or a french cleat. Hanger and wire is the way to go. Rick kmmcrafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-in-Ashland Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 They claim these will hold up to 50 pounds - that may be a stretch but I have holding about 15+ pounds and there has been no problem. I got it at Home Depot. kmmcrafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 screw eyes and braided picture wire. Strong but still adjustable. Here in earthquake country that works great. We get a shaker and just go through the house straightening everything. kmmcrafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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