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Additions to my Nautical themed grouping


FrankEV

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My 2 favorites are:

The jellyfish has great coloring. The inner tenacles captures the curled flat texture really well.

The mermaid has some really artistic smooth curves with flare. 

 

The mermaid in colors might make it better.  The butterfly fish would stand out more.  But I have no clue what colors to use.  This is just a thought for the next time you do this mermaid.

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6 hours ago, preprius said:

...The mermaid in colors might make it better.  The butterfly fish would stand out more.  But I have no clue what colors to use.  This is just a thought for the next time you do this mermaid.

I though hard about using color for the MM and fish.  Just could not decide if it would look correct.   The image is very strong as a silhoette and color, in this case, may not improve it.  But, you are correct, it might.

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8 hours ago, WolfmoonCT said:

I like the octopus.. so did you cut out the octopus, and paint the dots on the backer after the octopus was glued to the backer?

Yep.  

As I said , I do feel I could have done the paint work better.   Eventhough these pieces are not supposed to be an true representation, I had looked at pics of Octopus on line to get and idea of what colors I should use.  I had difficulty trying to produce an appropriate body color.  Adding the white dots representing the suckers was done after the cut panel was affixed to the backer.  These could/should have been more consistant.  My detail brush work is not very good.      

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Hey gang, just wnat to say thanks for all the nice comments.

But JFYI:

It is funny how different people are attracted to  differnt things (I guess that is what maks us human).  

None of the boats gat a mention and I thought they were the more appealing pieces.  My lady raved over the Fishing Boat which see saw as a Tug Boat. 

Each of the sea creachers got at least one or more "like comments", even the Octopus, which I thought was kinda not so great. 

It is fun to post a group of pieces and see what comments people have.  I get a better feeling about the opinions of the work rather than when each piece is posted seperately.

Also, here is a observation I've made.  The SVV group is very supportive of each other, a great thing, but "I feel" they tend only to give praise.  Very little, if ever, is constructive critisim offered, which I find sad.  Positive comments are always a god thing but there are times when a little nagativity is both worthwhile and instructive. 

   

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I like the octopus because my little bathroom in the hallway, I have a shower curtain with a kracken on it, wrapped around a ship.  I have a glued up jigsaw puzzle of 3 frigates in the water that I am going to frame and hang in that bathroom. I think the octopus would go awesome in there, if you wouldn't mind sharing the pattern with me.

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4 hours ago, Charlie E said:

... I especially love the colors on the crab....

Interesting comment Charlie.  I use on-line photos of my subject to try to get an idea of a fair color rendition.  My shading and blending of colors still needs to improve.  Just for the record, I'm not trying to make the illustrative image "real" but I don't want it to be tooooo "funky" or "abstract" either.   

Using color to enhance some of my scroll saw work kinda makes my work a little different from much of what this community does.  I seems to be getting positive reviews and I see a few others adding some color to their work.  I like to think some of what I have been doing is, in some small way, an insperation to others to think outside the box. 

 

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19 minutes ago, FrankEV said:

.  Positive comments are always a god thing but there are times when a little nagativity is both worthwhile and instructive. 

   

Your projects are so different, and pleasing to the eye that limits the mindset to give creticism. 

I see your point on the mermaid is siloette. It kinda goes like an inverse at times.  Thus it is kinda hard to color.

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6 hours ago, FrankEV said:

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Also, here is a observation I've made.  The SVV group is very supportive of each other, a great thing, but "I feel" they tend only to give praise.  Very little, if ever, is constructive critisim offered, which I find sad.  Positive comments are always a god thing but there are times when a little nagativity is both worthwhile and instructive. 

   

You are correct about that Frank.  I'm not surprised about the lack of negative criticism.  Most people are not good at either giving nor receiving constructive criticism.  In my career as a software developer specializing in human factors, such criticism was vital and I learned to depend on my few colleagues who were good at both. 

Another observation about SSW is that if you ask for advice and help, you are likely to get it.  Over the years, I have learned a LOT here and have seldom been disappointed. 

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On 6/14/2021 at 2:48 PM, FrankEV said:

. . . 

Also, here is a observation I've made.  The SVV group is very supportive of each other, a great thing, but "I feel" they tend only to give praise.  Very little, if ever, is constructive critisim offered, which I find sad.  Positive comments are always a god thing but there are times when a little nagativity is both worthwhile and instructive. 

   

Here's my take which is a little different then yours.  First, I looked back over your post and no where did you ask for "constructive criticism" to be provided. Further, it was posted in the "Bragging" sub-forum so you were clearly happy enough with your work projects to post them there. As a result, I would not have offered any criticism (if I had any to give) in that instance.  I would never offer criticism, even if I considered it "constructive" if someone had not specifically asked for "insight" or "suggestions" or "ideas" on what to do differently/change. My theory is that if they are posting it for others to see - and did not ask for our "insight" or for "constructive criticism"- they were clearly happy with their end product and just wanted to share it and show it off and be happy with their finished piece.  I would not want to hurt or offend anyone by providing criticism that they did not seek.  Further, "Beauty" and a "great looking project" is as the old saying goes "in the eye of the beholder".  Clearly, they liked the project or they would not have posted it.   While I do think that we can learn from each other, I would only want to do so if someone asked for that help or insight. I would not want to hurt or offend someone by offering my unsolicited advise as to what I thought they had done wrong, could have done better, etc as that is not what they posted it for (because if it was and they wanted insight/feedback, they would ask for it.)  I do agree with Frank Pellow, most of us are not very good at giving or receiving criticism especially when it is not asked for.  I have seen many people in my years here in the village who do ask for insight/help/what can I do better.   I have done so before.  When they do that, they clearly want some help/advise.  If I don't ask for it - I just want you guys and gals - who understand the time and effort that can go into a piece to see what I did and be happy for me! I liked the piece and that is really all that matters to me.  I do know that when folks ask for help/insight or advise most people do their best to provide good, kind feedback that will help the OP with what they have inquired about.

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2 hours ago, meflick said:

Here's my take which is a little different then yours.  First, I looked back over your post and no where did you ask for "constructive criticism" to be provided. Further, it was posted in the "Bragging" sub-forum so you were clearly happy enough with your work projects to post them there. As a result, I would not have offered any criticism (if I had any to give) in that instance.  I would never offer criticism, even if I considered it "constructive" if someone had not specifically asked for "insight" or "suggestions" or "ideas" on what to do differently/change. My theory is that if they are posting it for others to see - and did not ask for our "insight" or for "constructive criticism"- they were clearly happy with their end product and just wanted to share it and show it off and be happy with their finished piece.  I would not want to hurt or offend anyone by providing criticism that they did not seek.  Further, "Beauty" and a "great looking project" is as the old saying goes "in the eye of the beholder".  Clearly, they liked the project or they would not have posted it.   While I do think that we can learn from each other, I would only want to do so if someone asked for that help or insight. I would not want to hurt or offend someone by offering my unsolicited advise as to what I thought they had done wrong, could have done better, etc as that is not what they posted it for (because if it was and they wanted insight/feedback, they would ask for it.)  I do agree with Frank Pellow, most of us are not very good at giving or receiving criticism especially when it is not asked for.  I have seen many people in my years here in the village who do ask for insight/help/what can I do better.   I have done so before.  When they do that, they clearly want some help/advise.  If I don't ask for it - I just want you guys and gals - who understand the time and effort that can go into a piece to see what I did and be happy for me! I liked the piece and that is really all that matters to me.  I do know that when folks ask for help/insight or advise most people do their best to provide good, kind feedback that will help the OP with what they have inquired about.

You are totally correct. 

For me the title "Bragging Rights" is OK but if one is going to reply to a posting and only give praise, IMHO, there is nothing of value to be gained except to boost the OP's ego.  The question is then: Why do we all comment on post in this thread?  

Maybe this forum needs another subject for posting.  Something LIke 'Critique my Scroll Saw Work' where both positive and nagative  comments are expected and welcomed.  If one does not like to or want to receive criticism they would not post in that thread. 

You are also corrrect, I never asked for "constructive criticism", as I just assumed it would be offered if appropriate.   And although I'm happy with the work I post and like to brag as much as anyone, that dosen't mean the work I do couldn't be better.  So from now on I will add a statement for "constructive criticism" to all positng I put up.

Now I will give you some unsolicited criticism to your reply:  One long parragraph is VERY VERY difficult to read, even on a large screen like I have. 😞   

 

 

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