Popular Post FrankEV Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Needed to take a break from doing framed, flat panel portrait work and make something different. I have had this Side and End wall bird battern for a very long time and have revisited it often. It did include the base pattern, but there were no patterns/details for the top or bottom. I had to design them on the fly. The box is nom 12” wide by 8” deep and 4” high. I really did not realize how large the box was until I began to assemble it. Since the box was quite large I decided it needed a divided drop-in tray. The box outer walls, base, top and bottom is solid red oak. The red painted wall backers, inside box bottom, inside base top and the inside box tray supports were made from 1/8” BB ply (cut from my cut-off scrap pile). The tray was made from 1/4" Red Oak solid core ply and has a depth of 1 1/4 inches. Because I did not realize the size of the box, I was forced to purchase a 6 foot length of Red Oak 1” by 12” (3/4” by 11 1/2“) to make the top and bottom. Big $$$$$. The available 2 foot long boards at Lowes were not quite long enough as I need 26 inches. So I now have a nice 3’-10” length left for another future project. I planed the bottom down to 1/2”. For the top I rabbeted the bottom perimeter 1/4"deep so the top has a lid keeper that projects into the box. I sanded a small round on each corner and I used a small ogee router bit to put a decorative edge all around the top and bottom. Everything was finished with many coats of clear gloss Lacquer after which I lined the tray and the lower box with red felt. A very sticky job as I was using contact cement. I'm contemplating installing some small hinges as the top is heavy and will be cumbersome to remove and replace during use. I’m attaching a few pics as it is hard to show all the detail in one. Feel free to critique my work. . Edit 7/3/21: It was requested I post pics with the hinges installed. I was able to mortice the hinges into the box and lid to get the lid to land flat on the box. The lid does not need a hold open device because of the lids overhang. Edited July 3, 2021 by FrankEV Woodrush, oldfa_t, new2woodwrk and 25 others 25 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preprius Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 How do you decide on amount of work vs the wood choice? I feel that your quality of workmanship is better than red oak material. Is the amount of time and effort worth getting more exotic wood? I struggle with this decision based on project also. If it is a handle vs a fine jewelry box. Or will I need to tap threads. Who the article is intended to go to. I have lots of these stupid concepts in my head as I start choosing next project. OzarkSawdust and FrankEV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted June 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, preprius said: How do you decide on amount of work vs the wood choice? I feel that your quality of workmanship is better than red oak material. Is the amount of time and effort worth getting more exotic wood? I struggle with this decision based on project also. If it is a handle vs a fine jewelry box. Or will I need to tap threads. Who the article is intended to go to. I have lots of these stupid concepts in my head as I start choosing next project. I would love to use more exotic wood, but I can't justify the material cost as I can't gaurentee I will be able to sell it. As is, the cost of Red Oak is outragous, but the only decent hardwood readily available at Lowes. I wasn't even sure about this project as the scroll work was not that spectacular. It was only after stack cutting the box walls and base did I decide to actually complete the project. It was more just need to do something different project to keep control over the duldrums from doing the same work all the time. All that being said, I'm seriously considering making a fretwork clock like others are doing. If I do, along with spending for a quality movement, I will definately spend to get nice wood. However, it will probably not be a for sale project as my lady will want to keep for ourselves, so cost is not a consern . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Very nice Frank I love making boxes when I get time...Any chance of a copy of what you have... not seen that design before... Merlin... OzarkSawdust and FrankEV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawson56 Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Now that is a Beautiful box, and an Awesome job. I agree with you about the small hinges, I would use them. FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Beautiful work! FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirithorse Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Beautifully done, Frank! Thanks for sharing and God Bless! Spirithorse FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSull Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Looks great and I think the hinges are a good idea. My personal preference would have been to use a dark royal blue felt. Tbow388 and FrankEV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Perfect and beautiful. Great work Frank. Marg FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munzieb Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Frank, you did a fantastic job on this box. The red works perfectly and I really like the feet. It gives it a classic furniture look. Time to kick it up a notch with some Bubinga or Padauk. I believe you would get your money back on the cost of the wood and it would sell fast. FrankEV, heppnerguy and OCtoolguy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted June 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 8 hours ago, CSull said: Looks great and I think the hinges are a good idea. My personal preference would have been to use a dark royal blue felt. You got to work with what you have. My lady chose the color of the backers and the red felt went perfectly with it. If I had just used a contrasting wood backer, a Royal Blue would be an excelent choice, but I wasn't about to go out an buy different felt when I had the red already. Thanks for taking the time to offer a thoughtful suggestion. heppnerguy and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveww1 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 that sure is a beautiful box FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) A really nice job Frank. Now my better half wants to know when I'll make one for her?? Thanks I have that pattern. Just haven't gotten around to making it yet. That's a Woodsmith pattern. https://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/scroll-sawn-jewelry-box/ Edited June 24, 2021 by ben2008 FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted June 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, ben2008 said: A really nice job Frank. Now my better half wants to know when I'll make one for her?? Thanks I have that pattern. Just haven't gotten around to making it yet. That's a Woodsmith pattern. https://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/scroll-sawn-jewelry-box/ Yes it is Woodsmith pattern, but in my computer file of patterns I had not labled it so I did not know where I had gotten it from. And I had not donloaded the construction details, so other than the scroll patterns I had nothing else to go on. The Woodmith build was a lot more complecated than what I did. Your better half could have this one for the right price...I would ship . ben2008 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben2008 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, FrankEV said: The Woodmith build was a lot more complecated than what I did. I sent away for the pattern with instructions. That was a few years ago. And that's probably why i haven't started it yet. LOL Edited June 24, 2021 by ben2008 FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjweb Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Frank, that’s beautiful, I have looked at that in the past but have not made it yet, RJ FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meflick Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 A beautiful box and I happen to like things like that made with red oak. I am sure your wife loves it. FrankEV and ben2008 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 A very beautiful box, Frank. I really like your explanation of the construction. Red Oak was perfect for this one. ben2008 and FrankEV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted June 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 47 minutes ago, meflick said: A beautiful box and I happen to like things like that made with red oak. I am sure your wife loves it. 32 minutes ago, Denny Knappen said: A very beautiful box, Frank. I really like your explanation of the construction. Red Oak was perfect for this one. I only finished the Red Oak with the clear Lacquer. The color is not very deep, but I is much richer looking in person than what is seen in the photo's. Often when I use Red Oak for my Frames, I will deepen the color with Red Oak stain. That improves the contrast between Frame and portrait, but in this case I prefered to just maintain the natural wood color. Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. OzarkSawdust and meflick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkort Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 simply stunning!! FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie E Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Beautiful job Frank. I too like red oak. I know it's not very exotic but neither am I. ben2008 and FrankEV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl1 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Very nice. I make boxes, I saw the scroll saw box plans but thought things would fall out or not be private. I never thought that a liner would be used, that changes everything. I will have to try one. Nice work. Carl ben2008 and FrankEV 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Very good cutting on this 3/4" can be a bit of a challenge, but you stepped up and hit it out of the park. If you're having trouble deciding on hinges, Lee Valley has a huge selection of small hinges. FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Superb box. Roly FrankEV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted June 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, Jim McDonald said: Very good cutting on this 3/4" can be a bit of a challenge, but you stepped up and hit it out of the park. If you're having trouble deciding on hinges, Lee Valley has a huge selection of small hinges. The box walls were 1/4" solid Red Oak with an applied backer. Only the top and the horizontal bottom piece was 3/4". The bottom piece I planed down to 1/2" thick and the top I rabbeted the bottom side so It appears to be 1/2" thick. The scroll work was squite easy. Ordered hinges. Should be here this week. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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