SCROLLERNATION Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hi guys! I am moving from Virginia to Maine. Advanced Machinery is just right off the highway on my way. Depending on the weather, timing and traffic I wanna go visit and test some toys and their accessories example. The poly cut three with my foredome dust extractor. I will have my two service dogs with me in a uhaul and therefore The conditions have to be right. My animals cannot suffer. If I am able to visit what videos pictures etc would everyone like to see? If they let me. Any specifics? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 Shoot a pic of Wolfgang. He's been a big help to me and I'd like to see what he looks like. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, octoolguy said: Shoot a pic of Wolfgang. He's been a big help to me and I'd like to see what he looks like. Thanks. That would be awkward haha. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 3, 2021 Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, SCROLLERNATION said: That would be awkward haha. Why? He should be happy about being asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, octoolguy said: Why? He should be happy about being asked. Ill see if I can take a picture with him and the team or something. Make it less awkward. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 Wolfgang is not the gentleman that passed away a year or so ago?? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, Scrappile said: Wolfgang is not the gentleman that passed away a year or so ago?? OMG! I hope not. He answered my email a month or so ago. From the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 No then,,,, it was one of the other techs.... One, very, very helpful one,,,passed sometime in the last year or so... I know I talked to him a lot when I got my Hegner... OCtoolguy and Jim Finn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 15 hours ago, octoolguy said: OMG! I hope not. He answered my email a month or so ago. From the box? He’s around. I didn’t get a picture. I asked. But look how little this 14” is danny and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, SCROLLERNATION said: He’s around. I didn’t get a picture. I asked. But look how little this 14” is I had the chance to get one of these 14" saws at a estate sale for $60 on a stand about 4 years ago.. I kick myself for passing that deal up.. But at the time I wasn't impressed with such a small saw.. also that the tension lever is at the back of the saw.. Not that you can't reach it on such a small saw.. but every saw I've owned has had all controls at the front of the saw.. Just didn't think I could get used to that and I would have spend $80 on a large paper weight, LOL SCROLLERNATION, danny and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said: I had the chance to get one of these 14" saws at a estate sale for $60 on a stand about 4 years ago.. I kick myself for passing that deal up.. But at the time I wasn't impressed with such a small saw.. also that the tension lever is at the back of the saw.. Not that you can't reach it on such a small saw.. but every saw I've owned has had all controls at the front of the saw.. Just didn't think I could get used to that and I would have spend $80 on a large paper weight, LOL It’s adorable kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, SCROLLERNATION said: It’s adorable Yeah, kind of look like toys.. in fact when I seen the one at the estate sale I at first thought it was a kids toy until I went and took a closer look to see it was actually real, LOL OCtoolguy and SCROLLERNATION 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 25 inch Hegner OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, SCROLLERNATION said: He’s around. I didn’t get a picture. I asked. But look how little this 14” is That's the one that the demo guy used to take to all the woodworking shows. It's the first one that I ever saw demo'd. I fell in love with it even then. But, the next show I went to in Colorado Springs, the Hawk was being demo'd there with it's 20 inch capacity so I bought one. Sadly, it never got used and I sold it to my neighbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, octoolguy said: That's the one that the demo guy used to take to all the woodworking shows. It's the first one that I ever saw demo'd. I fell in love with it even then. But, the next show I went to in Colorado Springs, the Hawk was being demo'd there with it's 20 inch capacity so I bought one. Sadly, it never got used and I sold it to my neighbor. As long as the hawks keep being quality and parts are available it will always have a spot in my shop. The hegners didn’t run very good today. I didn’t buy any. Rockytime and OCtoolguy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, SCROLLERNATION said: As long as the hawks keep being quality and parts are available it will always have a spot in my shop. The hegners didn’t run very good today. I didn’t buy any. Well the Hawk that I bought was a 2 speed belt system and everything on it was very primitive. The blade mounting system was all allen wrenches and not fun at all. I don't really know why I bought it but it was just something that piqued my interest at the time. The Hawks have come a very long ways since I bought that one. I recently bought a very nice 226 Ultra that was like new but it had too big of a footprint for my small shop so it had to go. For the short time I had it, I was impressed with how smooth it worked and if I ever have a larger shop (LOL) I'd certainly have another one. Edited August 4, 2021 by octoolguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, octoolguy said: Well the Hawk that I bought as a 2 speed belt system and everything on it was very primitive. The blade mounting system was all allen wrenches and not fun at all. I don't really know why I bought it but it was just something that piqued my interest at the time. The Hawks have come a very long ways since I bought that one. I recently bought a very nice 226 Ultra that was like new but it had too big of a footprint for my small shop so it had to go. For the short time I had it, I was impressed with how smooth it worked and if I ever have a larger shop (LOL) I'd certainly have another one. Didn’t that belt drive hawk have a huge. 1 1/8 inch stroke? I have lots of Hawks. I mainly like the scrollmate the ex and Hawk saws. I kinda like Hegner too just not as much. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SCROLLERNATION said: Didn’t that belt drive hawk have a huge. 1 1/8 inch stroke? I have lots of Hawks. I mainly like the scrollmate the ex and Hawk saws. I kinda like Hegner too just not as much. I have no idea. I never used it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SCROLLERNATION said: Didn’t that belt drive hawk have a huge. 1 1/8 inch stroke? I have lots of Hawks. I mainly like the scrollmate the ex and Hawk saws. I kinda like Hegner too just not as much. Which one did you buy, LOL Just curious why you say you don't like the Hegner as much? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: Which one did you buy, LOL Just curious why you say you don't like the Hegner as much? How could anybody not like a brand new Hegner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said: Which one did you buy, LOL Just curious why you say you don't like the Hegner as much? I didn’t buy one. There was a ton of really nice rebuilt ones but I couldn’t make up my mind what I wanted. Too many cool choices. They even hd 2 25” saws, a Hegner lathe, an Mk4, TSW230. Tons of fun stuff. There are just a few things about the Hegners that I forgot about which is why I haven’t bought any and went with the Hawk, EX and scrollmates. Brokentone and kmmcrafts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, octoolguy said: How could anybody not like a brand new Hegner? A couple saws started off fast then slowed down to speed. Couldn't get them to run smooth like I remember the Hegner I used to borrow time on. And forgot about what a pain the lower blade clamps were because you have to line up the blade and pull out slightly so the screw doesn’t twist it out of position and believe me it really does. Another are the parts. The clamp system stuff just seems outdated. Yea they paved the way to revolutionize the industry but you need 3 different sized blade holders $25 a pop to hold all the blades you would use from 2 to 12. If you want a quick release for the blade its an additional $35. Bellow should you need to replace them are $45 and more plastic than rubber. There are not two risers in the back just one. I could not find a sweet apot on the saws and the tables are still tiny. Even smaller now on the 14” than the older version. The 25” and polycut 3 had bigger tables though. I may buy one just to have it around to make videos with for others to see. The polycut 3 was a disaster when it came to changing speeds lol if anyone decides to get the polycut 3 to blast out puzzles all day it will totally crush it day in day out. It is violent and i would bolt it to the floor for sure OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCROLLERNATION Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Heres saws that are demos, trade ins and repairs. Fun stuff! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappile Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I guess I lucked out and purchased (one of their demo models) that was the perfect saw.. Makes me kind of wonder.... SCROLLERNATION and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCROLLERNATION said: A couple saws started off fast then slowed down to speed. Couldn't get them to run smooth like I remember the Hegner I used to borrow time on. And forgot about what a pain the lower blade clamps were because you have to line up the blade and pull out slightly so the screw doesn’t twist it out of position and believe me it really does. Another are the parts. The clamp system stuff just seems outdated. Yea they paved the way to revolutionize the industry but you need 3 different sized blade holders $25 a pop to hold all the blades you would use from 2 to 12. If you want a quick release for the blade its an additional $35. Bellow should you need to replace them are $45 and more plastic than rubber. There are not two risers in the back just one. I could not find a sweet apot on the saws and the tables are still tiny. Even smaller now on the 14” than the older version. The 25” and polycut 3 had bigger tables though. I may buy one just to have it around to make videos with for others to see. The polycut 3 was a disaster when it came to changing speeds lol if anyone decides to get the polycut 3 to blast out puzzles all day it will totally crush it day in day out. It is violent and i would bolt it to the floor for sure Never understood why they make those bellows out of that goofy rubber/plastic stuff.. I see most used saws needing that piece.. I see Hawk list the bellows for their saws for $10.. I've also never ever heard or seen of anyone having to replace one on a Hawk.. They are listed in the parts on their site so I'm sure people buy them.. It's just not very common like on the Hegners.. Hegners are dam good saws.. but I do feel they could improve on a lot of things.. as can Hawk.. Hawk in my mind would be quite a competitor to Hegner if they had good management for the company like Hegner does.. If I owned a Hegner I'd have to buy stocks in Magnifier light bulbs and lenses.. My older Hawk upper arm goes up higher than the other newer Hawks. I've broke two bulbs and cracked a magnifier lens from that arm when a blade broke.. Not sure why Hegner designed that front tension lever to stick up 3-4 inch above the arm, Was always kind of curious if the designers of scroll saws ever used one.. Edited August 5, 2021 by kmmcrafts OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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