jamieline Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 I see a used RBI Hawk for sale. Asking 400. From the pictures does not seem to be maintained and well used. I don't know that much about them and wonder if this is a good deal. What should be looked at? I have an Excalibur, not the new ones, that I got from Sayco and like it. Thanks OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old sarge Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Some photos of the Hawk you are looking at might help Hawk users give you pointers. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timelett Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 I would wait until Kevin has a comment on the price, sounds like a lot to me, OCtoolguy, kmmcrafts and Jim Finn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieline Posted January 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 These are the pictures from the post. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjweb Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Sorry i don't know much about Hawk saws, Kevin will give a better idea. What I don't understanding is why when someone is selling a tool, that they don't clean it up and have good pictures (pictures are worth a thousand words), RJ kmmcrafts, stoney and OCtoolguy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 There are many things to know and check on Hawks. I think $400 is too much. When someone posts pics and does nothing to spiff up their saw I figure they don't really care if they sell it or not and probably maintained it the same way. The first thing I'd want to see is the ser. number plate. Which blade clamps does it have, which motor? Need more info. I bought a like new 226 Ultra in mint condition for $250. Where are you and the saw located? stoney and kmmcrafts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 That's a pretty old saw judging by the air blower tube. I'm guessing it has the round barrel clamps which nothing wrong with that and nothing wrong with a very old saw other than the price.. also as others have mentioned, the pile of sawdust around it does show it works.. but really one should clean up the items they're selling and honestly I think you're way farther ahead to wait it out for a better one.. Or wait and watch to see if the price gets lowered on this one. $200 would be max. on this saw if it worked good and seemed to be is decent condition and that's being a bit generous LOL and assuming not much wear on it. OCtoolguy and Jim Finn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preprius Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 It could be that the user has urgent medical issues. Thus no cleanup. But do get ther serial number. You can find the log of when it was manufactured. Ray helped me to find a good one. I paid $350. Me. Mark Eason OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 This saw here in somewhat the general same geographic area is the same vintage as the one you are looking at.. This saw has the round clamps as I mentioned. Has been rebuilt with new upgraded front upper tension and clamping system. Upgraded flexible air blower.. clean looking saw that someone put some money into to keep it nice. Has the older motor on it.. This is just like a saw that I sold another member here a couple months back. With the work and the upgrades this saw is actually not a bad deal for a old saw.. Some may say too much.. but boy there just isn't much that wears out on these old saws.. so this $500 saw would last just as long as the brand new one of these same models that cost $1450 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1356988461381679/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Acfa17f72-7bec-49d6-a10f-2b7c17239ddd OCtoolguy and Greatgrandpawrichard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieline Posted January 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Thanks everyone. I hear alot about the Hawks so I was not sure what to look for. As others mentioned, not sure why the seller didn't clean it up but I think that shows how it was maintained. THere could be other reasons as well. Just wanted to see if the price was in the ball park. kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBob Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 I paid $100 for mine several years ago. I wound up spending over a $100 on it for parts and some up grades. I believe it is newer than this one. The on;y problem I have with the round clamps is that they will sometimes come ou when a blade breaks and as with anything else I drop they alway seem to bouce and roll underneath something. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 Get the serial number off the saw. Call hawk and see if it is a older motor. The old ones were bad. I came across one awhile back, got the number and called the company. I didn’t buy it when I found it had an older motor. The replacement isn’t cheap. Hawk was really nice and helpful when I called. I’d save the money and go for a new saw. It costs less in the long run. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 2, 2022 Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 hours ago, BadBob said: I paid $100 for mine several years ago. I wound up spending over a $100 on it for parts and some up grades. I believe it is newer than this one. The on;y problem I have with the round clamps is that they will sometimes come ou when a blade breaks and as with anything else I drop they alway seem to bouce and roll underneath something. If it falls off the saw then this piece here is worn out and needs replaced.. Or it's completely missing. https://stores.bushtonhawkstore.com/barrel-style-blade-holder-clip/ These plastic clips get weak over time and don't hold the clamp in place as it should. The newer saws have upgraded the "plastic" part to a spring steel one.. If you're decent with forming metal you probably could make a metal holder that maybe last much longer. They are cheap enough buy a couple and have one on hand, as the expensive part of ordering one is the shipping.. wait till you need other parts or order some blades or something too.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBob Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 19 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: If it falls off the saw then this piece here is worn out and needs replaced.. Or it's completely missing. https://stores.bushtonhawkstore.com/barrel-style-blade-holder-clip/ These plastic clips get weak over time and don't hold the clamp in place as it should. The newer saws have upgraded the "plastic" part to a spring steel one.. If you're decent with forming metal you probably could make a metal holder that maybe last much longer. They are cheap enough buy a couple and have one on hand, as the expensive part of ordering one is the shipping.. wait till you need other parts or order some blades or something too.. The clips on my saw are metal. Steel I think. kmmcrafts and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatgrandpawrichard Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 5:30 AM, BadBob said: The clips on my saw are metal. Steel I think. Trust me on this one, but even the metal clips get weak! I have owned and operated Hawk saws for well over 30 years. My first Hawk got used extremely heavy and it made me Thousands of Dollars. I went through 6 of the Barrel Clips in the time I owned it. When figured it was time to upgrade the old saw I bought new (Plastic) Clips and then Gave the saw to a very Good Friend. They are now using and loving the old saw. I upgraded to a Brand New 26" Hawk . It has a spring steel clip for the blade holder. It is getting weak after only 2 years of heavy usage. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Greatgrandpawrichard said: Do you remove the clamps to change to new blades? My new 3 year old Hawk BM-26 has the metal clips.. they work as they was new BUT, I don't remove the clamps when putting new blades in. The old saws you had to remove them to change blades.. This new saw you don't really have to. But I do understand doing it that way since that is how you've been doing it for 30 years.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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