Newbee from UK....starting out with a question

[PeteL]

Hi all, I am a very, very new scroll saw user (2 weeks) from Nottingham in the UK, and to get started I bought a cheap Einhell Saw  from Amazon.

I am happy enough with the way it performs, but I decided to fit a foot pedal switch. It worked OK until I lifted my foot, and the saw stopped. Great, I thought, now to get started. When I put my foot back on the pedal, nothing happened. It was then I found out that the saw is fitted with a NVR (is that the name) switch, and it thought that the foot switch had interrupted the power, and that the only way to get going was to use the switch on the saw.

I assume that they only way to make this work would be to take the power from after the switch and speed controller on its way to the motor Has anyone heard of this being done? Or could anyone advise me.  Hope you don’t think I’m being cheeky, what with being a newbee

PeteL

[OCtoolguy]

First of all, welcome to the SSV. I love the Brits. We watch nothing but British TV. As to your question, I have 3 saws with foot pedals that are what we refer to as "dead man" in that the saw only runs while my foot is on the pedal and if I lift, the saw stops. Some folks prefer the on/off type pedals where you have to tap the pedal to start the saw and tap again to stop it. I'm not familiar with what you describe. I have my saw plugged into the foot pedal and the foot pedal is plugged into the wall outlet. The switch on the saw is left in the ON position all the time. I think the way your saw is made is to protect the user from if the power goes out and the saw stops, when the power comes back on again, the saw won't start on it's own. We call that a "magnetic switch". I had one on my Delta Unisaw. I hope you get it figured out. Best of luck in your new hobby. But, let me warn you, it's addictive. All consuming. Be sure to post pictures of your work.

[WayneMahler]

Welcome to the village and your new hobby. I agree with Ray as to having a magnetic styled safety switch. I would try to contact the manufacture before I started trying to rewire the saw. They may have an answer of a certain type of foot control you can use. I have used a "dead man " control on my saws for the past 10 years or so and would never go with out one. Also welcome to the addiction 

[preprius]

Hi PeteL

I have learned so much from this village. It is great that you started with questions. 

But we need a bit more info.

So does the saw still work?  Nothing smoked.

Can you hold the foot switch down and turn on the saw?

My saw needs the foot switch down for about 3 seconds.   This is called a soft start feature.

Is the foot switch you bought a speed controller unit?

Me.

Mark Eason

 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2022 by preprius

[OCtoolguy]

51 minutes ago, preprius said:

Hi PeteL

I have learnes so much from this village. It is great that you started with questions. 

But we need a bit more info.

So does the saw still work?  Nothing smoked.

Can you hold the foot switch down and turn on the saw?

My saw needs the foot switch down for about 3 seconds.   This is called a soft start feature.

Is the foot switch you bought a speed controller unit?

Me.

Mark Eason

 

 

 

Excellent question Mark, if he is trying to use a foot control from a sewing machine, that could be a problem. I'm sure more info will be forthcoming.

 

[TAIrving]

Welcome to the hobby Pete.  I hope you get as much enjoyment out of it as do all of us here at the Village.

I am recalling a prior discussion here on the forum along these lines.  As I understand/recall, the British government is concerned about the safety of you / her citizens, and requires a magnetic switch in such appliances.  i.e. deadman style foot switches will not work for you.  Regrets but I do not recall the solution, if there is one.  Perhaps some of our knowledgeable British members will chime in on this.