Shelf liner

[Eplfan2011]

I saw a post about this the other day, I've been using it for about a month now and it works well and it's saving me money ! 

I was blowing through blue painters tape like you wouldn't believe and @ $7 a roll for the good stuff it's not cheap. I just cut a piece the size I need and stick it on and glue the pattern on.  It seems to lube the blade just like clear packing tape too ... I used to blue tape then glue the pattern and clear tape over the top, now it's just add the liner and glue down. 

So far it's stayed put until I've tore it off and it hasn't peeled on me even when I've left it a week and come back to it, also there's no noticable residue left when you take it off. Bonus I'm still on my original roll.

 

 

 

 

[redwine]

I started using the shelf liner about 2 years or so ago after seeing the dog puzzle maker that cuts hundreds  of them was using shelf liner instead of blue tape or just spraying the back of the patterns and attaching to the long lengths of the wood! As you said the price of the blue tape was just getting to expensive and if it is used with patterns with a lot of detail, you run the risk of breaking out some of the detail as you peel the tape off! After using it the first time and seeing the results, I never looked back!

Erv

[Eplfan2011]

3 minutes ago, redwine said:

I started using the shelf liner about 2 years or so ago after seeing the dog puzzle maker that cuts hundreds  of them was using shelf liner instead of blue tape or just spraying the back of the patterns and attaching to the long lengths of the wood! As you said the price of the blue tape was just getting to expensive and if it is used with patterns with a lot of detail, you run the risk of breaking out some of the detail as you peel the tape off! After using it the first time and seeing the results, I never looked back!

Erv

As a beginner I was unsure but after cutting a few things it seemed a no brainer, not only do I not need blue tape but also no packing tape either, that's a pretty big saving if you cut a lot.

 Thanks for the reply Erv!

[OCtoolguy]

I've not tried this yet but after reading here, the thought came to me that it might also work like packing tape if you put a layer over the pattern as well. Not sure how cost effective it might be but just a thought.

[Eplfan2011]

1 hour ago, OCtoolguy said:

I've not tried this yet but after reading here, the thought came to me that it might also work like packing tape if you put a layer over the pattern as well. Not sure how cost effective it might be but just a thought.

With just sicking it to the wood and glueing the pattern down seems to lubricate the blade Ray, but if you want to add another layer over the top you get plenty in a roll

[OCtoolguy]

38 minutes ago, Eplfan2011 said:

With just sicking it to the wood and glueing the pattern down seems to lubricate the blade Ray, but if you want to add another layer over the top you get plenty in a roll

True, I was just adding to the idea of using packing tape. I don't but many do. I use only the shelf liner and glue pattern to it. I have taped over when things start showing signs of weakening.

[kmmcrafts]

I've been using the shelf liner for a lot of years, probably 10-12 years. I also got tired of the messy spray glue and the can running out of air before it's empty etc.. so I started printing the patterns on full sheet shipping labels.. pretty nice just peel and stick it to the shelf liner covered wood. The glue on the shipping label also lubes the blade, but don't try sticking just the label to the wood.. shipping labels are made to not fall off a package so it also doesn't come off the wood, LOL.. don't ask how I know that one. 

[Eplfan2011]

20 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

I've been using the shelf liner for a lot of years, probably 10-12 years. I also got tired of the messy spray glue and the can running out of air before it's empty etc.. so I started printing the patterns on full sheet shipping labels.. pretty nice just peel and stick it to the shelf liner covered wood. The glue on the shipping label also lubes the blade, but don't try sticking just the label to the wood.. shipping labels are made to not fall off a package so it also doesn't come off the wood, LOL.. don't ask how I know that one. 

Going to have to look into full page shipping labels now ! ( As the rabbit hole opens, down he goes) got a link Kev?

 

[Scrappile]

I have tried them all and am now back where I started. I attach my pattern directly to the wood. Remove with Mineral Spirits.  The rule is what ever works best for the individual.  

[kmmcrafts]

1 hour ago, Eplfan2011 said:

Going to have to look into full page shipping labels now ! ( As the rabbit hole opens, down he goes) got a link Kev?

 

They're a little bit more money but I like the Packzon brand.. You do loose about 1/16 or so on the 11" sides for easier peeling.. which is why I like them. Had some that just had cross cut on the back but they was harder to peel off. Plus these have a full sheet back piece that is waxy on the one side which doubles for gluing small items. When I glue a piece that needs a backer.. I will spread a small film of wood glue using a plastic spreader ( commonly used for Bondo / fiberglass in the auto body world ) then I dip the back side of the fretwork into the glue and place it on the backer.. easier way to get glue on the entire back surface.. Just please make sure you're dipping the back side and not the front... don't ask. LOL

Anyway I used to use these for mailing my packages so I would go through a lot of them. Last time I ordered I bought 1000 sheets.. then a week later I bought a thermal 4 x 6 Dymo label printer.. that's been a couple years ago and I still have most of them left now that I'm only using them for patterns. A hundred or so would last a weekend hobby scroller for a year or so I would think. I guess it depends on how you use them.. Most things I make would fit on a half or forth of a sheet like ornaments or car clocks so I print two per sheet of clocks and 6-8 ornaments per sheet so I don't go through to many of them a year. LOL

I usually purchase them from ebay.. last time I got them was from this seller here back in 2020. https://www.ebay.com/itm/152896747215?hash=item23995b36cf:g:4kUAAOSwjn9Zj2Gt

 

[OCtoolguy]

22 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

They're a little bit more money but I like the Packzon brand.. You do loose about 1/16 or so on the 11" sides for easier peeling.. which is why I like them. Had some that just had cross cut on the back but they was harder to peel off. Plus these have a full sheet back piece that is waxy on the one side which doubles for gluing small items. When I glue a piece that needs a backer.. I will spread a small film of wood glue using a plastic spreader ( commonly used for Bondo / fiberglass in the auto body world ) then I dip the back side of the fretwork into the glue and place it on the backer.. easier way to get glue on the entire back surface.. Just please make sure you're dipping the back side and not the front... don't ask. LOL

Anyway I used to use these for mailing my packages so I would go through a lot of them. Last time I ordered I bought 1000 sheets.. then a week later I bought a thermal 4 x 6 Dymo label printer.. that's been a couple years ago and I still have most of them left now that I'm only using them for patterns. A hundred or so would last a weekend hobby scroller for a year or so I would think. I guess it depends on how you use them.. Most things I make would fit on a half or forth of a sheet like ornaments or car clocks so I print two per sheet of clocks and 6-8 ornaments per sheet so I don't go through to many of them a year. LOL

I usually purchase them from ebay.. last time I got them was from this seller here back in 2020. https://www.ebay.com/itm/152896747215?hash=item23995b36cf:g:4kUAAOSwjn9Zj2Gt

 

I will save that supplier Kev. Thanks.

[Eplfan2011]

1 hour ago, kmmcrafts said:

They're a little bit more money but I like the Packzon brand.. You do loose about 1/16 or so on the 11" sides for easier peeling.. which is why I like them. Had some that just had cross cut on the back but they was harder to peel off. Plus these have a full sheet back piece that is waxy on the one side which doubles for gluing small items. When I glue a piece that needs a backer.. I will spread a small film of wood glue using a plastic spreader ( commonly used for Bondo / fiberglass in the auto body world ) then I dip the back side of the fretwork into the glue and place it on the backer.. easier way to get glue on the entire back surface.. Just please make sure you're dipping the back side and not the front... don't ask. LOL

Anyway I used to use these for mailing my packages so I would go through a lot of them. Last time I ordered I bought 1000 sheets.. then a week later I bought a thermal 4 x 6 Dymo label printer.. that's been a couple years ago and I still have most of them left now that I'm only using them for patterns. A hundred or so would last a weekend hobby scroller for a year or so I would think. I guess it depends on how you use them.. Most things I make would fit on a half or forth of a sheet like ornaments or car clocks so I print two per sheet of clocks and 6-8 ornaments per sheet so I don't go through to many of them a year. LOL

I usually purchase them from ebay.. last time I got them was from this seller here back in 2020. https://www.ebay.com/itm/152896747215?hash=item23995b36cf:g:4kUAAOSwjn9Zj2Gt

 

Thanks for all the info Kev.

I haven't been at this long and I'm already 3/4 of the way down my second can of 3m 77 that's $10 a can plus blue tape and packing tape not to mention the good paper my wife uses for work I can't see it being more expensive ! 

[Eplfan2011]

3 hours ago, Scrappile said:

I have tried them all and am now back where I started. I attach my pattern directly to the wood. Remove with Mineral Spirits.  The rule is what ever works best for the individual.  

Got to agree with you there ! But this seems to be working for me !

[Eplfan2011]

Duh I'm a idiot

I've got nearly a 100 sheets down stairs which I bought to make stickers on the cricut..... Did I mention I've a diy tee shirt and sticker addiction too.....

[BadBob]

I used blue tape for a long time before trying other methods, including shelf liners. I found the shelf liner annoying and quit using it after using up two rolls.

I primarily use 3m spray adhesive (77/45) and put the pattern directly on the wood. Pattern removal is easy. Wet the pattern with mineral spirits and let it soak for a bit; it comes right off even the most delicate pieces.

I only use blue tape when I need the piece fast and don't want to wait for the mineral spirits to dry.

[TAIrving]

I use the full sheet packing labels like Kev described and am very pleased with them.  I like not getting 3M77 spray adhesive on my fingers. 

And I really like having/using the backing paper for glue-ups and for backing when spray painting small pieces.  I sometimes use parchment paper when a backing sheet is not available.  One word of caution re spray painting:  the overspray paint does not stick to the backer or parchment paper and often will come up with the wood piece being sprayed.  

[Joe W.]

4 hours ago, TAIrving said:

I use the full sheet packing labels like Kev described and am very pleased with them. 

Ditto for me.  Cost-wise, I think the sheets are less expensive compared to paper & adhesive spray.  Or if not, close enough to be worth it when you factor in the time it takes to use/apply them to the wood.
My 2 pennies worth.