Eplfan2011 Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Second attempt at cutting this Jim Blume bullrider pattern. The first attempt on thin ply resulted breaking off pieces while sawing, so I decide to try cutting it out of 5/8 Maple boards 16x16. I was progressing Nicley with a few cuts left. This morning before finishing it up I decided to clean up and vac the workshop, caught the cutting with the vac hose and it hit the floor hard and shattered a good few chunks out. It's beyond super glue I'm afraid .... I need to take a break I'm bummed ! I guess I leant some stuff cutting it, on a accomplished scrollers advice I changed blades half way through from FDUR to FD Polar and it made cutting so much easier. red river, danny, ChelCass and 4 others 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter N White Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Bad luck probably heard the bad language down under. OCtoolguy and Eplfan2011 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplfan2011 Posted March 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Peter N White said: Bad luck probably heard the bad language down under. I'm over it now ....lol scrollingforsanity and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 Well, until you blew it up, it looked great. scrollingforsanity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplfan2011 Posted March 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, OCtoolguy said: Well, until you blew it up, it looked great. Hahaha thanks Ray! OCtoolguy and scrollingforsanity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rash_powder Posted March 18, 2023 Report Share Posted March 18, 2023 This is the very thing I am most afraid of happening. One must always try to see the good in such things - be it practice or learning new techniques. Condolences on the loss; it looked to be a fine piece. OCtoolguy and scrollingforsanity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sycamore67 Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 Well, A tough lesson. See what happens if you clean your shop. I rarely clean mine for this reason. OCtoolguy, jollyred, scrollingforsanity and 4 others 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankEV Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 I'm betting the thin ply would have been no problem cutting if you used small spiral blades. This pattern looks like it is just made to be cut with Pegas #2/0 spirals in a nom 1/8" thick ply panel. IMHO, cutting a pattern like this in thick wood just destroys the look of the image by seeing all the vertical cut surfaces no matter how perfectly straight on you look at it. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplfan2011 Posted March 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 hours ago, rash_powder said: This is the very thing I am most afraid of happening. One must always try to see the good in such things - be it practice or learning new techniques. Condolences on the loss; it looked to be a fine piece. Its just a piece of wood with holes in it, I'm over it, next OCtoolguy and ChelCass 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplfan2011 Posted March 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Sycamore67 said: Well, A tough lesson. See what happens if you clean your shop. I rarely clean mine for this reason. Smart man ! OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eplfan2011 Posted March 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, FrankEV said: I'm betting the thin ply would have been no problem cutting if you used small spiral blades. This pattern looks like it is just made to be cut with Pegas #2/0 spirals in a nom 1/8" thick ply panel. IMHO, cutting a pattern like this in thick wood just destroys the look of the image by seeing all the vertical cut surfaces no matter how perfectly straight on you look at it. You're probably right Frank. I've been jumping between spirals and straight blades, but I needed to knuckle down and get some straight blade practice. In fact my first attempt was in 1/8 but my straight blade skills weren't good enough..... TBH I'm a rank amateur trying to cut big boy things, but I learn a lot along the way. FrankEV and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatie Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 We all learn the hard way unfortunately. You just have to take a deep breath and start something different. Marg OCtoolguy, Eplfan2011 and barb.j.enders 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberdan Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 Sorry to see that happen Eplfan. It sucks when you put the time into a project and something happens like that. I always use at least 1/2" cherry or ash boards and I find that taping the larger cutouts back into place braces the wood and protects it from breakage. It may be just me but I never use any softwood for fretwork projects because of the lack of wood strength especially with advanced patterns like the one you are cutting out. I try to cut strategically as well and make my large cutouts the last ones if I can also.One other thing that might help is to stay away from using spiral blades especially on hardwood I always use #1 FDUR and #3 FDUR blades and another tip is to use sharp blades all the time and the cuts are much easier. If you are trying to sand away with the saw blade and it jumps on you change the blade don't fight the cut.Blades are cheap and you don't want to have an issue of a breakout piece after investing many hours of time into a project over a dull blade. I know im going to probably get some flack over the spiral blade comment but IMO I find spiral blades are a pain to clamp in the blade chucks and they wander a fair bit too especially on hardwood. They do have their place from time to time on my work but the bulk of my cuts are done with straight blades. This might help thanks for reading. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Fengstad Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 I cut this some time ago using 1/8 baltic birch turned just o.k Eplfan2011 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberta Moreton Posted March 19, 2023 Report Share Posted March 19, 2023 OH! The Language! Didn’t even happen to me and I said it! Eplfan2011 and OCtoolguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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