While the Cat Is Away...

[Dak0ta52]

The wife has been visiting family in PA and I was fortunate enough to stay home and take care of the fur babies. It also allowed me time to finish some projects I kept putting off.

The old car is a pattern by Grampa. I cut two and placed the "face" side of the wood together when I stacked to see if that would help with reducing the delamination issues.... it didn't! They are cut on 1/4-inch Birch. After using watercolor to paint the painted piece I used Minwax Ipswich stain and found that does the best covering up the delamination. The backers are black painted Pine. The frames are pre-finished framing material cut to fit.

The deer scene is a Steve Good pattern, Both are 1/4-inch Birch, one painted and the other Minwax Ipswich. A black Pine backer which has a painted cardboard bird and moon painting glued over the cut-outs in the backer.

The last was a request for Mother's Day for someone that never returned to pick it up. It is a Steve Good pattern cut on 1/4-inch Maple ply stained with Minwax Espresso. The Lauan backer is 1/4-inch and stained with Minwax Natural.

I've got a couple projects in the making, one I've already started and another I'm waiting on the new saw to arrive to start that one. Both 

[Scrappile]

very nice work!

[FrankEV]

4 minutes ago, Dak0ta52 said:

...I cut two and placed the "face" side of the wood together when I stacked to see if that would help with reducing the delamination issues.... it didn't! ...

All very nice.

As to delamination.   Was that Solid Birch wood or Birch Ply?

 Usually, delamination occurs when you remove the pattern if tape or liner is used.   For this case I find very good sanding before application of the liner (what I use) minimizes tear out.  Also, liner removal must be with the grain not against or across to insure no tearout.

However, what you discribe, sounds like a problem with the wood itself.  Box store birch ply is pure junk as far as I'm concerned, that is why I only use Columbia Solid Core Ply.  Pricy but a much better quality. 

Or, another cause could be the blades you are using.  Not the Brand, necessarily, but the number of teeth.   More teeth the smoother the cut will be in whatever material you are using.   Large blades with small number of teeth and slow saw speed will rip/tear the wood (especialy ply).  JFYI, I use, almost ecclusively, spiral blades.  I do get a lot of fuzzies on the back side but no, none, nada tear out or delamination.   For long straight or curved lines I will often use a Pegas #1, 3, or 5 MGT R  (depending on material thickness) with no noticable tearout.

Hope this info might help.

[rjweb]

You have done an excellent job on those projects, RJ 

[MarieC]

As always, excellent work!

[Dak0ta52]

4 hours ago, FrankEV said:

All very nice.

As to delamination.   Was that Solid Birch wood or Birch Ply?

 Usually, delamination occurs when you remove the pattern if tape or liner is used.   For this case I find very good sanding before application of the liner (what I use) minimizes tear out.  Also, liner removal must be with the grain not against or across to insure no tearout.

However, what you discribe, sounds like a problem with the wood itself.  Box store birch ply is pure junk as far as I'm concerned, that is why I only use Columbia Solid Core Ply.  Pricy but a much better quality. 

Or, another cause could be the blades you are using.  Not the Brand, necessarily, but the number of teeth.   More teeth the smoother the cut will be in whatever material you are using.   Large blades with small number of teeth and slow saw speed will rip/tear the wood (especialy ply).  JFYI, I use, almost ecclusively, spiral blades.  I do get a lot of fuzzies on the back side but no, none, nada tear out or delamination.   For long straight or curved lines I will often use a Pegas #1, 3, or 5 MGT R  (depending on material thickness) with no noticable tearout.

Hope this info might help.

Thanks Frank. You hit it on the button with the cheap box store birch ply. I'm sure it isn't my blades. I use Pegas and almost never use a blade larger than a #1. Actually, my primary go to blade is the 2/0 either spiral or MGT. I typically sand to 320 before applying shelf liner. I've tried painters tape, straight glue and shelf liner and it seems the shelf liner works best for me... what I mean by best is that it causes less delamination. I'll have to try removing with the grain to see if that helps. Thanks again.

[wombatie]

They are all terrific.  Very well done.

Marg

[Peter N White]

Great work .

[daveww1]

great work

[rjR]

All are ART SHOW quality!

 

FANTASTIC WORK!

[FrankEV]

On 6/27/2023 at 9:52 PM, Dak0ta52 said:

Thanks Frank. You hit it on the button with the cheap box store birch ply. I'm sure it isn't my blades. I use Pegas and almost never use a blade larger than a #1. Actually, my primary go to blade is the 2/0 either spiral or MGT. I typically sand to 320 before applying shelf liner. I've tried painters tape, straight glue and shelf liner and it seems the shelf liner works best for me... what I mean by best is that it causes less delamination. I'll have to try removing with the grain to see if that helps. Thanks again.

Try sandind to 600 grit.  Remove dust well before applying linner.  Press gently to remove any bubbles but do not emboss too much with a plastic squeegee or the like.  Remove ASAP because the longer it is on the stronger the linner adhesive gets.  This may all help but a better grade ply will make a real difference.

[Roberta Moreton]

Beautiful work!