GrampaJim Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 OK, I know its a china made saw which have had their problems, and I know it supposed to be refurbished. But this looks like it might be a worth while gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCtoolguy Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 CPO is a reliable company from what I have heard. If they will stand behind it I'd give it a shot. If you use a credit card that's another level of assurance. And free shipping. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Not defending China made Excaliburs and not saying I would necessarily buy one, but I recall when Dewalt moved their production to the Far East from North America many years ago. The scrolling forums were ablaze with complaints about how the Type 2 Dewalts were plagued with quality problems and practically junk. After a few years, the new manufacturer got their act together and Dewalt's reputation has largely been restored. I'm not saying that has happened with Excaliburs, but I think for the price they are asking, it is worth finding out. Looking forward to a review, once you've had a chance to make some sawdust with it. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Honestly agree with both Ray and Bill, Here's the thing for me since I own one of the first few China made EX-21's out there.. I got mine before there was even any word of them coming back with the EX-21 so it's pretty close to the first batch of them out there.. My saw actually wasn't horrible and the biggest thing with it was actually the blade chuck was defective so I struggled to get blades installed and also stay tight. Once I put Pegas heads on it the saw was actually pretty awesome.. Of course I ran the crap out of it and in short order it needed new bearings.. replaced the whole assembly from Seyco and it's been a really good saw.. There were differences in some of the parts so it's kinda a chance to get parts to fit.. I can confirm on the EX-21 that the whole inside the saw assembly will work but the front caps are different and won't work.. can't vouch for anything on the 16" saw though.. Being mechanical I wouldn't be afraid to buy another one, however if I wasn't mechanical I wouldn't recommend one so I usually say stay away from one if you're not comfortable taking one apart and doing some repairs. There are still lots of folks badmouth talking about the type 2 Dewalts.. that happened way back around 2004-5 ish.. My 2008 saw was a awesome one.. Ray is correct, CPO is decent to deal with.. I bought quite a lot from them over the years.. A Dremmel scroll saw back in the day 2006 and when I got it the speed controller didn't work stuck on the slowest speed, LOL.. They emailed a return label and sent out a new one right away. I did have to take the old one to the nearest UPS though. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBob Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) I have had a good experience with CPO customer service. If I didn't have the money for a better saw, I would try it. However, you should know the return policy in advance because return shipping could be very expensive. I have changed every replaceable part of an EX-21, including the electronics, and they are not hard to work on. A crow's foot is handy to have but other than that there are no special tools required. Edited August 17, 2023 by BadBob OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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