rash_powder Posted September 21, 2024 Report Posted September 21, 2024 What is everyone using to mitigate glue overspray? I’ve been going outside but it stains the concrete. I have been looking for a liquid glue like 3m 77 that I can apply with a brush but cannot find anything. I have tried glue sticks and cannot make them work. Decopauge glue kind of works, I need to experiment more there. So, with winter coming I need a way to spray glue -since that works best so far - and not make a mess in the house. OCtoolguy 1 Quote
Wichman Posted September 21, 2024 Report Posted September 21, 2024 Here is what I use; Top of washing machine Layer of Kraft paper 20"x25" furnace filter for the base 20" x 20" furnace filters for the sides and top Prescription fact sheets inside for disposability barb.j.enders 1 Quote
Scrappile Posted September 21, 2024 Report Posted September 21, 2024 I just use a cardboard box. barb.j.enders, scrollerpete, JJB and 2 others 5 Quote
kmmcrafts Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 I remember this same struggle when I first started.. Then I accidently learned that I could just print them on self adhesive peel and stick paper.. no messy spray glue, no more clogged spray nozzles.. no more getting sticky glue all over my fingers.. I think it's the best thing ever.. including better than sliced bread in my opinion, TAIrving and barb.j.enders 2 Quote
Millwab Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, rash_powder said: I have been looking for a liquid glue like 3m 77 that I can apply with a brush but cannot find anything. Have you tried rubber cement? It comes with a brush in the lid and is supposed to be "wrinkle free" and the pattern can be peeled off. Edited September 22, 2024 by Millwab Quote
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 3 hours ago, Scrappile said: I just use a cardboard box. I second this. Do not over think it. I personally just lay newspaper on my tablesaw with a plywood base on it and spray away. 3m77 spray. barb.j.enders 1 Quote
jollyred Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 I use a 24" x 36" piece of cardboard laid on my table saw. I have used this same sheet for a few years now. It now has a thick layer of dried spray glue that keeps the pattern from getting blown about as I spray. Tom JTTHECLOCKMAN and barb.j.enders 2 Quote
Roberta Moreton Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 11 hours ago, Scrappile said: I just use a cardboard box. Same, cardboard box. JJB and barb.j.enders 2 Quote
barb.j.enders Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 13 hours ago, Wichman said: Here is what I use; Top of washing machine Layer of Kraft paper 20"x25" furnace filter for the base 20" x 20" furnace filters for the sides and top Prescription fact sheets inside for disposability OMG, I had the same washing machine when I first got married!!! Dave Monk 1 Quote
barb.j.enders Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 I am on a pizza box right now! Quote
Gonzo Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 Cardboard box also, but I stand a used furnace filter up at the back. I stick pattern onto filter and spray 3M77. The furnace filter catches the over spray and the pattern doesn’t go blowing away. Quote
TAIrving Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 I go outside to spray. The overspray goes on the grass and weeds. It usually gets too cold to do this for a week or two each year. Quote
kmmcrafts Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 Once you try full sheet labels you'll wonder why you ever messed with this messy spray glue for so long. If you do large format printing the labels can be bought in most any size you like. I used to do portrait work and did a lot of 11 x 14 portraits and had a large format printer. It's so nice to just print, peel and stick.. IF you shop around you can find these full sheet prices pretty comparable to the price of the standard paper and the cans of spray glue.. not to mention not having to deal with the mess and clogged nozzles.. https://www.onlinelabels.com/products/ol768wx?campaign=Shopping+WX&qty=100&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgL-3BhDnARIsAL6KZ6_oZV7CujwAjdiC6oGThK06QUBBVkkpyrh9KV3BYyn4uafD_UJpFXgaAs6EEALw_wcB Quote
rash_powder Posted September 22, 2024 Author Report Posted September 22, 2024 8 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: Once you try full sheet labels you'll wonder why you ever messed with this messy spray glue for so long. If you do large format printing the labels can be bought in most any size you like. I used to do portrait work and did a lot of 11 x 14 portraits and had a large format printer. It's so nice to just print, peel and stick.. IF you shop around you can find these full sheet prices pretty comparable to the price of the standard paper and the cans of spray glue.. not to mention not having to deal with the mess and clogged nozzles.. https://www.onlinelabels.com/products/ol768wx?campaign=Shopping+WX&qty=100&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwgL-3BhDnARIsAL6KZ6_oZV7CujwAjdiC6oGThK06QUBBVkkpyrh9KV3BYyn4uafD_UJpFXgaAs6EEALw_wcB Do you use the clear shelf paper under the label paper or just go straight to the wood? Quote
kmmcrafts Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, rash_powder said: Do you use the clear shelf paper under the label paper or just go straight to the wood? I still use the shelf liner as shipping label adhesive is really sticky.. you don't want a shipping label to be able to fall of nor easily peeled off so they usually stick quite well.. shelf liner is a must with these I think. Quote
Mike Crosa Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 I have been using the shipping labels directly on the wood. So far no problem with stickiness. kmmcrafts 1 Quote
rjweb Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 I too use a box no problems, RJ Quote
BadBob Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 I have used shipping labels, and they work. I have lots of paper and spray adhesives that I need to use, and out of habit, I default to using them. I spray on a flattened box with a magazine on top. If there is too much buildup, I turn the page. When I spray, I first ensure the nozzle is pointed in the same direction as my finger, then spray in short bursts until I get a light coating. A can of 3M77 lasts me a long time. I have minimal issues with overspray. I have watched YouTube videos where they spray their patterns using what I think of as the fire hose technique. They jam the nozzle and wave it around like they are trying to extinguish a fire. Half or more of the adhesive does not get on the paper. If you don't like getting glue on your fingers, try using hemostats. They are cheap and one of my most used tools. If I collected them all in one place, I would have more than ten sizes, from three to twelve inches. Quote
Bill WIlson Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/21/2024 at 11:47 PM, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: I second this. Do not over think it. I personally just lay newspaper on my tablesaw with a plywood base on it and spray away. 3m77 spray. Pretty much the same here. I don't use my tablesaw though. It's usually buried under a bunch of other stuff. I have a table extension on my radial arm saw that I use. Any flat surface will do. It's a good way to use up old newspapers, if anyone remembers what those are. JTTHECLOCKMAN 1 Quote
Joe W. Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 I use the full sheet labels most of the time. Occasionally, I'll have a pattern that I will use a box and Krylon Easy Tack spray. The box also doubles as a paint spray booth. Quote
rash_powder Posted September 25, 2024 Author Report Posted September 25, 2024 Some experimenting has been done since I started this thread. Decopage glue is a maybe. If you squeegee the pattern flat to the shelf liner enough glue is not left behind to make a secure bond. I've to try again as one of six patterns stayed put. I've not tried the Elmer's glue all I bought. If you use painters tape rather than shelf liner, Zinnser wallpaper glue works great. Brush on, gently pat the pattern into place and let dry. Very little squeeze out if you are careful; no smell; water clean up; good bonds. Its cheap too at less than $10 a quart. Probably will wait to next paycheck to get a couple more adhesives to try. Maybe rubber cement or some other contact adhesive. Quote
rash_powder Posted September 26, 2024 Author Report Posted September 26, 2024 Some more experimenting tonight. Scuffed the shelf liner real good before applying the glue and patterns. Decopage and Elmers Glue All worked well. Wallpaper glue not so much; much stronger hold than before, but still came loose easily. I really want that stuff to work so I may try again. I hope this is all useful to someone. Options are always good to have. Quote
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