Michael B. Posted November 24, 2024 Report Posted November 24, 2024 For those of us with the new Bauer saw (and Rikon, I guess) who don’t like to reach way back to release the uplock pin, I offer this video… This guy came up with an easy lever to fix this issue. I didn’t make one myself yet but I plan to make this or something similar. It seems like the easiest and cheapest solution. Thoughts? OCtoolguy 1 Quote
jollyred Posted November 24, 2024 Report Posted November 24, 2024 That is a great idea. Thanks for the video. One of the problems with the DW788 type 2 was the lack of grease on the bearings. Has anyone checked this saw to see if the bearings are well greased? Tom OCtoolguy 1 Quote
kmmcrafts Posted November 24, 2024 Report Posted November 24, 2024 Nice video, I had a very similar thought on the idea behind that stick to release the arm.. I don't have one of these saws but this was the first thought that came to mind when I looked at the one on display at my local HF store. As for the bearing grease, I could be wrong but I always thought the bearing manufacture applied the grease to the bearings.. that's not to say that the assembler couldn't add more if needed but I would think this is not so much a DeWalt issue as it is their supplier for the bearing, That said.. All of these saws I've taken apart have had very little grease in them.. which is probably okay in many machine situations.. but the biggest issue I feel is the fact that the fine sawdust can collect around the bearing and soak up any of the moisture out of what little grease there is.. then you get a dried crusty hard compound that doesn't lubricate at all.. This goes for any of these bearings that are not a sealed ball bearing type bearing.. the way the saw is designed I also don't really see how any other type bearing would work either so they probably just figure they'll sell parts or new saws.. in a few years.. The design of these saws make a wonderful cutting scroll saw and very smooth running... until they're not, LOL.. It's been said before that the reason these saws have all the covers and everything is enclosed is because of the lack of sealed bearings. I'd say it sure helps to keep dust out of the bearings but also a bit more work to oil / replace them too. OCtoolguy 1 Quote
Wichman Posted November 25, 2024 Report Posted November 25, 2024 I took a look at the manuals for both the Pegas and Bauer scroll saws. The Bauer manual states that the bearings are sealed and no lubrication is needed. The Pegas manual doesn't mention lubrication other than the guide rails. Both machines use the same type of bearings, although the manufacturers may be different. Neither machine uses sealed bearings and replacement bearings that I could find stated that they were pre-lubed with light oil. OCtoolguy 1 Quote
kmmcrafts Posted November 25, 2024 Report Posted November 25, 2024 8 hours ago, Wichman said: I took a look at the manuals for both the Pegas and Bauer scroll saws. The Bauer manual states that the bearings are sealed and no lubrication is needed. The Pegas manual doesn't mention lubrication other than the guide rails. Both machines use the same type of bearings, although the manufacturers may be different. Neither machine uses sealed bearings and replacement bearings that I could find stated that they were pre-lubed with light oil. Depends on the sales person as to what the term "sealed bearings" means.. I remember when the Pegas first came out and the guy that used to work for the magazine site got a job with Grobet USA and he was pushing the term pretty hard that the Pegas was different than the Excalibur, King, and Seyco saws because it was built better due to bigger and sealed bearings.. Now don't get me wrong, I've not taken a Pegas apart to see with my own eyes... but when the saw was made in the same facility as all the others I questioned his statement and looked up the parts in the manuals.. They are all the same bearing part numbers.. so I called him out on it.. I guess a seal bearing can mean that the saw itself has covers over all the bearings and parts.. so basically all saws today have sealed bearings as most are completely enclosed, you know all the plastic garbage in the way to actually get to the bearings.. While the saws do have "A" single sealed bearing the rest are open needle type bearings. They (Pegas) claims to have made the one main bearing that takes all the beating inside the saw much bigger and heavier bearing.. However the part numbers are all the same.. SO, they either need to update the parts list in the manuals or quit lying to the potential customers.. Most people don't care but I'd be on fire with them for false advertising if I bought a saw based on the premise that it is better made than the other that is slightly cheaper.. Funny thing is.. you don't seem to see this advertised from Pegas and the dealer's about this so called larger bearing anymore.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote
rash_powder Posted November 25, 2024 Report Posted November 25, 2024 I looked at a parts list for the Dewalt, and the bearings look like they are not ball bearings; just plain bearings like in a car engine. I don't think they are made from the same material as auto bearings, but most likely are more of a bushing meaning they are made from bronze, which is supposed to hold the oil in the pores. I would still oil them whenever I could. I don't think grease is really recommended for bushings, but I have used Honda M77 moly paste on the bushings in my Hegner. Moly is some really neat grease - when the carrier oil burns off or dries up, the moly itself is still a lube; and its good to something like 700*F. Quite overkill for a scrollsaw, but if it works it works. If there are ball bearings in the saw, there used to be a product in the world of radio control cars for pressing grease into bearings. OCtoolguy 1 Quote
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