Ring Box?

[kmmcrafts]

I'm wanting to make a ring box.. the box part I know how to make but my question is.. how does one make the little pillows (I guess that's what they're called? )  that hold the ring in the box? I don't want to make a box and have the ring rolling around inside of it, LOL

Any tips on making these and what material would work for that? My thoughts was some soft leather strips and somehow glue it and roll it or double sided tape? I don't really want to take a sewing class just to make the pillow things, LOL

[rjweb]

Kevin, I think you should be able to purchase these on line, my son made one a few years ago and he purchased on line I will try and find out where, looks someone is getting a valentines gift, RJ

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

What I have done in the past was take some felt of color you want to use. Cut it to basic size to fit box but make it long. Now roll it up from both sides till they meet in the middle. Now you can trim some more to fit in the box with scissors. The fold is where the ring goes. Now you would want to adhere it to bottom of the box so it does not get pulled out. The toughest part I found was the shape of the box was a heart shape. So trimming was a little trickier. That was the basic way I did ring boxes because they were smaller.

Now I have done other boxes using different methods too. I use foam under the felt and cut the foam and then wrap with felt making sure to form the felt into the crevices. Some boxes I just left it like a pillow in there. I do not have photos of ring boxes but maybe a photo or 2 of the other type boxes. Probably not because again I was not taking photos with a digital camera back then. Now some photos I converted but will see if I did any of those. I know I have one of the pool table pen box I did. Maybe the idea can be used for your situation and do not know why not. 

Sorry the photos are not that good in showing things and I could not find the one with the pool table and no pen in it but you get the idea. Just carve the foam and cover with felt. The same with the trinket boxes. I also did some religious cross boxes that I used same idea with felt but again those photos are on film only. I keep saying one day I will transfer alot of those but it would take some time. The roll of the felt was used on smaller ring boxes.   

 

  

Edited 7 hours ago by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[kmmcrafts]

52 minutes ago, rjweb said:

Kevin, I think you should be able to purchase these on line, my son made one a few years ago and he purchased on line I will try and find out where, looks someone is getting a valentines gift, RJ

Thank you RJ, Now you make me feel guilty ..  Now I'm going to have to make my wife a ring box and get a ring for her... no I was looking to make some ring boxes to sell.. but not looking to make a nice box with crappy pillow inserts.. I want them to be nice boxes.. 

[kmmcrafts]

16 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

What I have done in the past was take some felt of color you want to use. Cut it to basic size to fit box but make it long. Now roll it up from both sides till they meet in the middle. Now you can trim some more to fit in the box with scissors. The fold is where the ring goes. Now you would want to adhere it to bottom of the box so it does not get pulled out. The toughest part I found was the shape of the box was a heart shape. So trimming was a little trickier. That was the basic way I did ring boxes because they were smaller.

Now I have done other boxes using different methods too. I use foam under the felt and cut the foam and then wrap with felt making sure to form the felt into the crevices. Some boxes I just left it like a pillow in there. I do not have photos of ring boxes but maybe a photo or 2 of the other type boxes. Probably not because again I was not taking photos with a digital camera back then. Now some photos I converted but will see if I did any of those. I know I have one of the pool table pen box I did. Maybe the idea can be used for your situation and do not know why not. 

 

  

Beautiful work as always JT! 

After seeing RJ's reply I started searching and I did see some foam insert options.. I never thought of foam with felt over it until I started searching.. 

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

2 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

Beautiful work as always JT! 

After seeing RJ's reply I started searching and I did see some foam insert options.. I never thought of foam with felt over it until I started searching.. 

Yes they have inserts you can buy. I always made mine. Look on Amazon. They have many. 

Edited 7 hours ago by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[kmmcrafts]

43 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

What I have done in the past was take some felt of color you want to use. Cut it to basic size to fit box but make it long. Now roll it up from both sides till they meet in the middle. Now you can trim some more to fit in the box with scissors. The fold is where the ring goes. Now you would want to adhere it to bottom of the box so it does not get pulled out. The toughest part I found was the shape of the box was a heart shape. So trimming was a little trickier. That was the basic way I did ring boxes because they were smaller.

Now I have done other boxes using different methods too. I use foam under the felt and cut the foam and then wrap with felt making sure to form the felt into the crevices. Some boxes I just left it like a pillow in there. I do not have photos of ring boxes but maybe a photo or 2 of the other type boxes. Probably not because again I was not taking photos with a digital camera back then. Now some photos I converted but will see if I did any of those. I know I have one of the pool table pen box I did. Maybe the idea can be used for your situation and do not know why not. 

Sorry the photos are not that good in showing things and I could not find the one with the pool table and no pen in it but you get the idea. Just carve the foam and cover with felt. The same with the trinket boxes. I also did some religious cross boxes that I used same idea with felt but again those photos are on film only. I keep saying one day I will transfer alot of those but it would take some time. The roll of the felt was used on smaller ring boxes.   

 

  

 

That's a different type of hinge set up from what I've seen before.. I'm also looking at the different style of hinges.. The ones I seen yesterday while researching were just some round insert type thing.. not sure what those are called but that's sort of what I was thinking about using for hinges.. I have a lot of Walnut and Spalted Maple to use up as neither wood looks good for fretwork type scroll saw projects as the colors in the spalted maple take away the detail of fretwork cuts and dark walnut doesn't show fine details well from a distance so I'm looking for some projects to use up this wood.. Any suggestions for hinges or anything about making some ring boxes is welcome.. 

[OCtoolguy]

Next time you go to town, visit one of the local jewelry stores, explain what you need and I'll bet they will either sell them to you or tell you where to buy them.

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

2 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

That's a different type of hinge set up from what I've seen before.. I'm also looking at the different style of hinges.. The ones I seen yesterday while researching were just some round insert type thing.. not sure what those are called but that's sort of what I was thinking about using for hinges.. I have a lot of Walnut and Spalted Maple to use up as neither wood looks good for fretwork type scroll saw projects as the colors in the spalted maple take away the detail of fretwork cuts and dark walnut doesn't show fine details well from a distance so I'm looking for some projects to use up this wood.. Any suggestions for hinges or anything about making some ring boxes is welcome.. 

Kevin that is what I was using on the small ring boxes. They are called barrel hinges and you can get them in any sizes. I bought about 3 years ago a bunch because I was taking that concept into my pen turning and wanting to make pen boxes that I give with my pens. I was going to try to match woods from the pen to the box if I was selling a wood pen. But I had a couple different designs I wanted to try. One was with those barrel hinges and one was with just pins in the sides. I just did not follow through but the idea is still in my plans. The big thing with those type hinges is you have to make relief cuts in the back between lid and body of box that is at an angle so the boxes opens properly. There are videos of this on net and the hinges are inexpensive and very easy to install. Most that size are glued in. The larger ones have small tiny screws that you tighten and they expand the sides to adhere them. They are easier to replace if broken but small ones are tough to replace but they are pretty tough so should last if not abused.  They are called cancelled hinges which makes them high class looking. Pintrest is your friend. Look for ring boxes and you will see plenty of examples. Not hard to make and can be done on a scrollsaw very easily. That is how I did it. You can get as fancy as you want and technical as you want. You can inlay the top and bottom or just adhere the bottom flush with box. I preferred inlay. You can use acrylic in the lid to show off the ring or decorate the top something like I did with my trinket boxes. 

One other thing I used small magnets to keep closed. Those were hard to find but today they make magnets any size you want. 

 

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Edited 4 hours ago by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

Kevin they can make them on a CNC machine today and probably pop them out by the thousands. Cut the top and bottom from a board 3/4" thick is perfect. 

[kmmcrafts]

Yeah the CNC could make a batch of them up if one wanted to go into production mode with a large batch.. I'm not sure I'll go that route yet.. maybe in the future but for me to just make a handful of them I think the scroll saw would be faster than the time it takes to set up the CNC.. CNC is great if you have something that you want to repeat cut ( production) but most 1-3 piece projects it's just easier an quicker for me to scroll saw them.. It's also slower partly because of how I have the CNC set up.. Lots of the guys will create jigs and stuff so they can repeat or easily set up a job.. I just haven't done that yet. Can make perfect inlays with the CNC though.. so long as you're working with some pretty stable wood.  

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

18 minutes ago, kmmcrafts said:

Yeah the CNC could make a batch of them up if one wanted to go into production mode with a large batch.. I'm not sure I'll go that route yet.. maybe in the future but for me to just make a handful of them I think the scroll saw would be faster than the time it takes to set up the CNC.. CNC is great if you have something that you want to repeat cut ( production) but most 1-3 piece projects it's just easier an quicker for me to scroll saw them.. It's also slower partly because of how I have the CNC set up.. Lots of the guys will create jigs and stuff so they can repeat or easily set up a job.. I just haven't done that yet. Can make perfect inlays with the CNC though.. so long as you're working with some pretty stable wood.  

Scrollsaw works just fine. I wish I had one left I could take photos of mine but I do not have alot of my first projects. A nice heart shape one is the ticket. If you follow through with the idea, show us a photo. Just thinking after I left and another idea I was kicking around was doing a sliding top for my pen boxes. Maybe that can work for those small ring boxes. Or I have seen small boxes where they use a pivot pin in a corner and the top pivots to a side and uses a magnet to catch when swung back That is even easier than the barrel hinges. Good luck.

[kmmcrafts]

3 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said:

Scrollsaw works just fine. I wish I had one left I could take photos of mine but I do not have alot of my first projects. A nice heart shape one is the ticket. If you follow through with the idea, show us a photo. Just thinking after I left and another idea I was kicking around was doing a sliding top for my pen boxes. Maybe that can work for those small ring boxes. Or I have seen small boxes where they use a pivot pin in a corner and the top pivots to a side and uses a magnet to catch when swung back That is even easier than the barrel hinges. Good luck.

I made some slide top ones years ago that I think may have been Steve Good's design.. basically just angle cut the top and two sides to glue onto the box so they fit snug but not too snug or too loose to allow for movement of the wood. I did a couple where the inside was hollowed out with just a forstner bit too. 

If I used the CNC the heart shape would be real easy to just cut the foam insert and make a perfect fit to the box.