AI?

[Scrappile]

Does anyone here know how to use AI and test what would happen if you asked it to make a scroll saw pattern out of the picture?  I have seen a few of what they called intarsia patterns recently, but to me, they did not look like patterns, more just pictures of intarsia pieces.  I suppose someone could use them as patterns.

[Dan]

I think Steve Good made a sail boat pattern with chatGPT. I don't think he made it from a picture, though.

[rjweb]

All before my time and my brain, RJ

[Scrappile]

2 hours ago, rjweb said:

All before my time and my brain, RJ

Yep, me too!

[jerry walters]

I was a computer programmer for 40 years and this stuff is way beyond me and have no desire to learn.  Much rather sit at my scroll saw rather than the computer.

[ChelCass]

Steve Good has been experimenting with AI, check with him.  He should be able to help you.

 

[kmmcrafts]

AI drives me crazy as it wants to do everything for me and then if I let it, it does it wrong anyway.  

I haven’t messed with it for designing work partly because some selling venues don’t allow you to sell artwork from AI generated art/patterns. I don’t know how to tell if an image is generated from AI from the many pattern designers I buy patterns from though so at some point I might get kicked off those selling sites anyway. One thing that bothers me is the two sided use of it. For example I can’t use it for my artwork but the same sites use it to see if the sellers are using it, . Many sites using it to help create better selling / listing pages for better search results and they encourage sellers to use it. Yet I can’t create anything using it. I’m happy and content not using it but I feel I should probably learn it as it seems to be the way of the future and someday I may need to know how it all works. 

[Denny Knappen]

I try to have nothing to do with AI.  

[Bill WIlson]

1 hour ago, Denny Knappen said:

I try to have nothing to do with AI.  

I'm with you Denny.  If I can live out the rest of my days without ever having to engage with it, I'll die a happy man.  But as fast as new technology worms its way into every facet of our lives, I hope I don't die that soon.  

[JTTHECLOCKMAN]

I took my reply down because I do not want to start another tech war. Seems there are people that love that stuff. I am old school scrollsaw hobby. No lasers CNC or AI for me.  

Edited March 19 by JTTHECLOCKMAN

[Scrappile]

AI is just new.  I do not even have a cell phone yet.  Nothing against "New".  I just would rather talk to people.  So @JTTHECLOCKMAN, I say state your opinion. It will not offend me. I do not know if I love or hate AI.  I have not been involved with it. Probably never will.  At 81, I do not think I could figure it out, just like a cell phone. I do think with Gimp, and Inkscape, other available software; Pattern making is way more difficult than it should be.   But just because I can't do it does not mean I hate it or it is bad.  Just means it is all way over my abilities.  I have been around computers most of my life.  My main job when I got out of the service was as a computer operator, way back when Computers took up rooms.  They were in climate-controlled rooms, cooled by liquids and took crews to operate them.  So look what has happened in my lifetime.  Now, a cell phone has more computing power than those old computers.  Pictures back in my day:  Yes, you had to wear a coat and tie to operate a computer, even on graveshit!

 

Edited March 19 by Scrappile

[preprius]

I also know those room computers. air conditioning from the floors. Yea the mag tape.  

I don't think I had to wear a tie.

As for AI I played with it.  But I expect it to do way more than it can.  I hit the free limits within 10 mins. 

So far it does not do what I want. 

 

[Hudson River Rick]

Okay, I admit it,  NOBODY HAS MORE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE than me.  

I worked as a tech in a development lab for 28 years in  BIG BLUE.  There were days when I walked out of there with my head spinning from all the engineering talk, we would build the circuits that the engineers designed, and they would pull their hair out until the designs worked.  Great work, but I'm so glad I'm out of it.

Rick

 

[BadBob]

Grok is very good at answering technical questions about computers—it's much better than the typical search engine. However, you have to ask clear, specific questions, or you will get some strange answers.

I think they are great tools, but they are far from being intelligent.

[OCtoolguy]

6 hours ago, BadBob said:

Grok is very good at answering technical questions about computers—it's much better than the typical search engine. However, you have to ask clear, specific questions, or you will get some strange answers.

I think they are great tools, but they are far from being intelligent.

I've not heard of Grok. How do you access it?

[rafairchild2]

2 hours ago, OCtoolguy said:

I've not heard of Grok. How do you access it?

On X dot COM.  go to the menu on the left you will see it. After generating 4 images, what I find interesting is you can "edit" an image you like to keep refining it.

[sydknee]

AI absolutely frightens me but I’m old.

[BadBob]

5 hours ago, OCtoolguy said:

I've not heard of Grok. How do you access it?

X.com is where I use it. There is also a grok.com. This is Elon Musk's AI. I also use ChatGPT, Gemini, and the built-in Gramerly. Grok is by far the best. If you are on X, you can use it to analyze posts, and it also does trends. Grok is very good at writing code. I gave it a short program written in a very old version of Basic that they used in the time when computers used tape reels and everything was printed on paper because there were no monitors. I asked Grok to convert it to a bash shell script that I could run on Linux. Not only did it do the conversion, but the script worked right out of the box. I have tried this sort of thing with other AIs, but I never got code that worked. This morning, I wanted to teach it how to draw a scroll saw pattern that didn't work even after I uploaded samples.

 

[DrPete]

I have tried a few times to have chatgpt generate a pattern for me. Even showing it very explicit examples it failed miserably.

The best I do is using inkscape to trace a photo which is faster than I can do by hand.

P.S. I used to work on an Air Force Base on the computer simulation trainers. Each corner had a 5MB hard drive that was bigger than a washing machine. It was freezing in that place but after a time you would get used to it. Fun times, I'm not sure if we have advanced for the better.

People are dumber and they ask the computer do the work they should be using the computer between their ears to solve.

Edited Friday at 05:39 AM by DrPete

[JimNC]

14 hours ago, sydknee said:

AI absolutely frightens me but I’m old.

Me too, at 80 it's hard to learn new stuff. A few years back I got CNC machine, bought a special table for it, set up a water cooling system, paid a young CNC guy to spend a day with me to show me how to use it. And a week later sent it back at a shipping cost of $100. And that was 5-6 years ago....now AI!  No wayLOL

[rjweb]

Bob, with all you said my head hurts just thinking about it, too old to learn, RJ

[OCtoolguy]

On 3/20/2025 at 1:27 PM, sydknee said:

AI absolutely frightens me but I’m old.

Getting old frightens me.

[BadBob]

I'm 73 years old, and I try to learn something new every day. I have been taking online courses for a few months and have completed these.

• Intro to Neuro Science
• Intorduction To Nutrition
• Intorduction to Nietzsche
• Brain Plasticity
• Why We Get Sick
• Evolutionary Inference (current)
• Intro To Psychology
• Basics Of Biology
• The Boy Crisis

I read mostly nonfiction every day. I like books on history, medicine, and nutrition. 

It makes me sad to hear someone say they are too old to learn. Learning new things can make your brain grow.

[rjweb]

Bob, that's what wrong like the scare crow I have no brain to grow, RJ

[BadBob]

I spent the last few days working on computer projects, mostly trying to figure out which of my old computer collection are worth keeping or upgrading. I used the Grok AI extensively for this. It was extremely helpful.

This is related to scroll saws because if it were not for my computers, I probably would not be scrolling. Now, if I could teach Grok to draw scroll saw patterns for me.