Just curious about Excalibur/Pegas

[OCtoolguy]

Has anybody ever verified, one way or another, will Pegas internal parts interchange with non-Chinese Excalibur saws? I'm referring to Canadian/Taiwanese manufactured saws. @Denny Knappen, anything?

[kmmcrafts]

A few years ago I did a parts list comparison for bearing and sleeve numbers via the manuals for each saw. According to the manuals I looked at they're the same thing inside as far as I could tell. I have not had my hands on a Pegas or a "real" Excalibur to take apart and actually compare them side by side. As you may remember I did buy Excalibur guts from Seyco a few years ago and installed them in my China EX-21 version and everything fit fine except the aluminum pieces that fit into the arm tubes at the front of the saw where the rocker arms connect.. The tubing size was smaller for the China saw so I couldn't use the inserts. I was able to take the rocker arm assemblies apart and install them into my china made parts so those were the same otherwise. 

Be interesting to see if each saw uses the same quality bearings / sleeves.. just because the sizes are listed the same doesn't mean the brand / quality is.. The China saw certainly had cheaper looser bearings in it vrs. the ones that I got from Seyco..  

[OCtoolguy]

I recall that Kevin. What I'm trying to ascertain is all the individual parts. I see no reason to buy assemblies if not needed. I want to buy a complete set of bearings and sleeves just to have them on hand. HAving 2 Ex's, it would be nice insurance and not have to wait on shipping when the time comes. Somebody must have done some research into this at some point. I wrote to General International yesterday but who knows if they will ever answer. Contacting Pegas seems to be impossible too. I'm hoping Denny might have some ideas.

[kmmcrafts]

4 hours ago, OCtoolguy said:

I recall that Kevin. What I'm trying to ascertain is all the individual parts. I see no reason to buy assemblies if not needed. I want to buy a complete set of bearings and sleeves just to have them on hand. HAving 2 Ex's, it would be nice insurance and not have to wait on shipping when the time comes. Somebody must have done some research into this at some point. I wrote to General International yesterday but who knows if they will ever answer. Contacting Pegas seems to be impossible too. I'm hoping Denny might have some ideas.

I've been able to easily find bearings as that was how I originally intended to repair my saw but my issue was finding the sleeves. Rolf also ran into that issue when he rebuilt a saw for a friend in their club. The only thing I've ever been able to find individually was bearings from a bearing supplier.. 

What I did find more recently of coarse right after buying that whole assembly was that Jet sells individual parts and appear to be the same sized bearings ( again according to the manual ) and you can buy those sleeves through any dealer that sells Jet parts such as ereplacement parts etc.. Might be something for you to look into more.. as far as I could tell you could get everything through Jet.

 

[Denny Knappen]

I suggest checking with Ray at Seyco.  He sold EX21s and no, also Pegas.  He should be able to help.

[OCtoolguy]

3 hours ago, Denny Knappen said:
I suggest checking with Ray at Seyco.  He sold EX21s and no, also Pegas.  He should be able to help.
It sounds like Jet will be of the most help. It's odd that Pegas has no parts/service available for owners to repair their "out-of-warranty" machines. 

 

[kmmcrafts]

3 hours ago, OCtoolguy said:

3 hours ago, Denny Knappen said:
I suggest checking with Ray at Seyco.  He sold EX21s and no, also Pegas.  He should be able to help.
It sounds like Jet will be of the most help. It's odd that Pegas has no parts/service available for owners to repair their "out-of-warranty" machines. 

 

Pegas has parts but not individually, just like seyco and Excalibur you have to replace the whole drive link system as a kit rather than the one or two bearings that are usually the main issue. 
 

Seyco sells the drive link for Pegas saws as does bearwood. But if you just want to order pieces nobody other than Jet has the individual parts unfortunately. 
 

With all that said, back when I was researching for my rebuild the individual parts if buying all bearings and sleeves was more money than just buying the link arms as a whole and then you don’t need to press the old bearings out and the new in etc. Back then I think the assembly was $114 but last I heard it’s more now. 
 

Best thing is if you have a spare saw is to pull one apart and just grease it up good before you need parts.  

[OCtoolguy]

2 hours ago, kmmcrafts said:

Pegas has parts but not individually, just like seyco and Excalibur you have to replace the whole drive link system as a kit rather than the one or two bearings that are usually the main issue. 
 

Seyco sells the drive link for Pegas saws as does bearwood. But if you just want to order pieces nobody other than Jet has the individual parts unfortunately. 
 

With all that said, back when I was researching for my rebuild the individual parts if buying all bearings and sleeves was more money than just buying the link arms as a whole and then you don’t need to press the old bearings out and the new in etc. Back then I think the assembly was $114 but last I heard it’s more now. 
 

Best thing is if you have a spare saw is to pull one apart and just grease it up good before you need parts.  

I've serviced both saws. I'm just trying to be proactive. 

Does the package from Seyco include any sleeves? They seem to be the bug-a-boo. If the bearing fails, chances are good that the sleeve is badly worn too.