heppnerguy Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I cut this cross a couple of days ago and the I am having a finish problem that I have never had before. As you can see from the photo, i am getting a rough finish. I have tried to finish with a spray lacquer made by DEFT and I had this results so I sanded it off and now I used a miniwax polyurethane and got the exact problem. I am not worth a hoot at finishing but my wife likes the glossy finish best. So does anyone have an idea why I am having this finish problem and what I might do differently ? Open for any advice anyone may have to offer me. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Beasley Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Looks like you got wax or silicone spray on the wood making it peel back from the spots. If you resand you might be able to clean it with acetone before you finish it. Rob Roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Dick, I agree with Gary sand it down make sure there are no spots and re-coat it. Rob Roy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I did re-sand it from the first time and then coated it with the polyurethane. had the same results. I will give it another go, Thanks for your info guys...I thought I had all basis covered.. I will let you know what happens Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailfndr Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Dick, after you sand it, hit it with a sanding mop. Believe it or not, this seems to make the finish go on smoother as the wood is now sanded very smoothly. Also, you could probably go with lighter coats, and let it dry only to manufactures instructions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjR Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Sometimes the temperature of the area you are working in can effect the smoothness. I tend to have the same problem when I get to heavy with the finish coats. You might have to let it dry very very well ---(take to a nice warm place for a full day or more; if possible)--, before you can correct the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Try putting on thinner coats. I had an issue with poly before and found I was putting on too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryEA Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I agree with rjR thet the temp can cause that problem. Also some directions indicate a time lapse of up to two days before recoating. There are some instances where a second coat blisters or does not properly adhere. Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 All good advice ,I would call it almost (orange peel ) with my magnifier,on it even looks like a dry spot band south of the cross bar ,ck the nozzles of your rattle can Too ,sometimes they get a build up and spray a screwed up pattern , heavy in some areas almost none in others ,also appears to be ultra fine saw dust on parts of Cross .any or a combination can give you fits ,Hope ,this helps !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted April 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Thanks everyone .. my comments on your advice is;1; I do try to us very light coats, but probably could try harder... 2. The temperature was probably too cold at the time, 3. the sawdust was the results of sanding off my first efforts and not realizing I had not gotten all the new sawdust off before I re-sprayed. ( in a hurry ) 4. There could be a nozzle problem also, but there should not have been because it was a new can, but it was too cold too, I believe Thanks again to everyone who helped my with this, I am not going to take all the time to again try to reapply a new surface to it. It will be quicker just to make another one, I believe. Besides I like making them way more than I do finishing them. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Scroller Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Dick. Sometimes I get issues I use a spray lacquer let it dry 1 hour after sanding then BRUSH a clear vanish on and see the results the lacquer acts as the sealant. Roly Edited April 4, 2014 by Phantom Scroller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingkevin Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 It might be to high of an air pressure from the spray gun .I like 25 30 pounds but changed to the hlvp type gun it's only 5 pounds of air and does quality finish work on cars or cabinets or our projects90 per cent or better of what you spray go on the project to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 thanks all, I made another cross, which someone ordered the day I posted the one I showed you; I am not planning on trying to sell the one i posted because of the finish problem. But the photo I posted on my page was taken in a different light and the poor finis does not show. i will pay attention to all your helpful hints and let you know what happens the next time I take a crack at a glossy finish. Dick heppenrguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansnow Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I've been using a gloss clear spray lacquer from Lowes for sometime now. I sand to 320 before finishing, then spray 2 coats allowing about 10-20 minutes between coats. Then I very, very, very lightly sand with 400. Two more coats of clear, sanded with 400 between, and I've been very happy with the results. Iused it on all kinds of wood from birch ply to cherry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coullion Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Dick, I have had this happen as well. I just keep adding layers of lacquer and by the 4th or 5th layer it smooths out. Then I very lightly sand with a brown paper bag and add just one more light coat and all is well! Try heating your can of lacquer in some warm water if spraying in cold temps. Hope this helps. Todd EX-16 Edited April 6, 2014 by coullion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multifasited Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 If you ever spray laquer in the late evening or very early in the morn the is a chance moisture in the air will turn your object a flat ashe white if not completely in spots ,if it ever happens let me know! I won't bore you with details as must not be very common as no one has posted the problem that I know of !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppnerguy Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 again, I wish to thank everyone for taking the time to help my with my finishing problem. I never was very good at finish work. Now I should be doing a lot better because I am better educated now. The next time I try to finish something with a gloss I will let you know my outcome I can not thank you all, enough, for your help. I love this family we have here. Dick heppnerguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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