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SO WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE IT ?????? I have a few patterns out there and really do not care how scrollers use my patterns. I am flattered they like them enough to use them at all. .......even for profit. JAN

Here is my current system for drying small to medium parts. The rack folds to a very small footprint, they can be stacked for addition drying space. Once the finish is not tacky I'll set them out where the air flow is better than the shop.

My wife said we need a mantel clock and found one on Pedro's Web site finescrollsaw.com. Contacted him and he send me a PDF file after I purchased. It all went very smoothly. Took it to my local UPS store and were able to print it on card stock using A6 paper format dimensions. 12" x 17" I wanted to do it in Bubinga but my wife wanted a lighter color, so I went with oak. I used 3.5 pieces of 5.5 x 48" 1/4" oak. I did modify the top from the original pattern so that the top was narrower than the piece below it. I also added a 1/8" shim between to bottom and next piece up. I also rounded the extention pieces on the base plate. Finish in Gloss Lacquer.

Hi everyone, just wanted to pop in to let everyone know I'm home from the hospital. I had back surgery last Friday so I'll be out of commision for a while. They say six weeks recovery. I start therapy tomorrow. Hope you get back to my saw soon. Thanks, Ralph.

I've been reading this whole thread and came away totally confused. I regard every pattern that I have, whether a free one or a paid-for one" the exact same way. Once I have it, it's mine to use for whatever I want as long as I don't "re-sell" it. I make things from these patterns and if I sell my work and give credit to the pattern maker, I figure I've done my due diligence. If someone wants to sue me, good luck. I have nothing much.

I was having problem with Inkscape and printing 11 x 17 ( I'm not alone ). The pattern for these is about 2/3 the original, and since I hate waste I'm using the pattern that I have. I had some 1/8 inch wood, so that's what I'm using. I don't know the species; blade FD Polar 2/0, pilot holes #71 drill bit ( .025 ), quarter for sca

Do what your therapist says and then get your rest. I know it's hard for us old timers to believe, but those kids know what they are talking about.

In just my humble opinion, reference to copyright only applies to the pattern itself and can not be applied to the product produced from them. I believe most patterns, stencils, images etc. found on-line, although they may state "copyright protected" are not unless associated with major corporations or actual book publishers. Just too costly for most creaters to bother with. Those who sell other peoples work are really the ones who are in the wrong, Steve Good's recent email, being a good example of this problem. Therefore, I can appreciate that a pattern I purchase should not be redistributed and sold for profit. However, once I purchase a copy it is mine to share, give away or transfer ownership. If the seller states "only purchasing a license for use" he/she is being nieve, and again, such a statement sounds good but is uninforcable. I also am of the opinion that particular patterns, produced by certain makers that state on their Website (or even on the pattern intself), that the pattern can not be used to produce commercial products, must be smoking something. It sounds very powerful but, I believe, a totally uninforcable statement. That is kind of like an Art paint manufacturer saying you can buy their paint but cannot sell a painting done with their paint. Too dumb for words. Also, patterns are simply suggestions fo making a resulting image, not unlike a coloring book or paint by numbers kit. Even the smallest deviation from the pattern, makes it unique and no longer what was sugggested. AND WE ALL DEVIATE, DON'T WE? If you don't mess with highly recognizable LOGO's or products by major organizations, like a Harley Davidson, copyright infringement being detected/determined and/or even verified, in any of our scroll saw work and/or our product sales is highly unlikely. I know a there are those wno will not agree with me regarding all or parts of the above, but as I stated, they are only my opinions and how I chose to operate.

Fir what it's worth I've tried the magnifying light like that ,never had any success with it. I switched to using 2 sewing machine lights and a magnifying visor. Much better. My work surface is much better lit and I can move my head and the cut line stays in focus. Chris

That is one awesome clock! Very nice indeed!

Glad surgery went well and you are. Home. Praying for a good and speedy recovery so you can get back to your saw. As others have said, do the therapy - they do know what they are doing.

Based on Wichman’s info. on it being a Steve Good pattern, here is a link to where he posted it on his blog Dec. 7, 2012. Just scroll down past the post and the poll and click on the red “Free Download” button to download from the blog post or do as Wichman suggested by searching his Index pages. https://scrollsawworkshop.blogspot.com/2012/12/snowflake-christmas-ornament-scroll-saw.html

Hope you recover quickly, Ralph. Prayers are with you.

Hi Bernd, So nice to see a scrolled Clock! Just beautiful to look at, Well done Bernd, Thanks for posting, Bob

Steve Good pattern. Search within ornaments, 16th pattern set "snowflake".

I am sorry but I disagree with some of the thoughts being written. A copyright protects the the creator from someone stealing his work. The same goes for a patent. What I read in this thread is that it is OK to to break the copyright laws because no one will check to find out. Do we do the right thing or do we justify breaking the law because we can get away with it I probably will receive some not so happy comments for this post and that is fine.

Here wishing you the best, Ralph.

Prayer for you to heal quickly and completely. Listen to pro's and get your rest.

Back surgery sucks, wishing you a speedy recovery.

Glad your on the mend, RJ

Very well done indeed. I love it.

Added a little emerald glitter

You're not safe from infringing a copywrite just because someone makes and sells the patterns, something I always thought I was safe from so long as I used Sue Mey, or Sheila / Keith Landry or other well known designers patterns.. I've had seize letters and items taken down from Etsy and Amazon from items I've made from these designers.. Same with a few of the puzzle patterns that Iggy is selling on his website.. I mentioned to the designers about the particular items and they never took them off their sites so you still can buy make and sell said patterns from these designers and get yourself into legal actions so don't think for a second that because the designers sell these they are safe.. I just wanted to make that clear to anyone that doesn't know this. I've had about 6 of these over the coarse of my 15 years of selling crafts online.. I have no issues with stopping selling something and never relist / sell a item that had been taken down.. I don't want to be sued but I also don't want to sit in a corner with my tail between my legs scared to make and sell things either.. The problem is.. there is so many copywrite / trademarked items out there that there is really hardly any way to keep track of some of them.. and people are going through the process to copywrite / trademark new items and sayings etc. every day so it's about impossible to keep up with it..

And even then you can't be sure. We all know you can't trust lawyers or used car salesmen.

This has been on my saw for months,, I would cut on it for a few minutes once in a while.. But I actually finished the cut this evening... This is Jim Blume's Kestrel , and I thank you @Jim Blume for the great patten... I love cutting pictures of bird...

Just spent an hour trying to figure out Inkscape. After getting no where I went to the University here and watched a few videos and learned one thing. I am NOT a pattern designer. My hats off to all of you that can do that. I was just trying a simple script name, got no where. Think I'll stick to free handing what I need. Chris

What I need is a "Inkscape for dummies" book, I actually looked for one, no luck.

I do the right thing, or I should say I don't purposely do the wrong thing.. I had company show up as I was typing so in regards to my post, I never really finished up to say that it's not the right thing to do etc. so if you are referring to me I wasn't done, LOL Guess I should have waited to finish before posting. I just don't understand how some designers can have certain regulations on their patterns and how they can go about proving it.. I get it with trademark items that you "copy something" but when you legally buy a pattern but are only to make 10 items how does that get proven.. ( again not saying it's okay to make more and hope to not get caught just don't understand it in the first place )It's a pretty grey area unless you obviously are at a show with 50 of them and caught red handed.. (also my understanding is that you have to be the holder of the copywrite to make a case).. otherwise it's a pretty hard proof. Unless I'm missing something. For the most part I think scroll sawers are pretty trust worthy because they know the meaning of "handmade" much better than someone that just buys a machine to make things for them while they watch over said machine.. I belong to many laser and cnc forums / groups.. and most of those guys seem to think everything is free.. and don't give a rats behind about the designer or a copywrite.. That is really why I brought these particular stipulations up.. without seeing their sales history how does it get proven.. I never once said anything about it being okay to do.. I just think the stipulations are kind of dumb to put in place.. though I'm not a designer and I don't carry copywrites or trademarks.. maybe something they have written that they know they cannot prove but to a certain minority of thief's at craft fairs with boatloads of inventory can give them some legal ground to stand if that were to happen.. possibly for those laser folks.. Those laser groups are terrible with loads of people arguing about this very type of thing and make the good guys have a bad name for it..

Brenda, click on your picture of the snowflake and a clear copy will pop of. Save this to Documents and then you should have a clear copy to print on your printer.

Brenda’s recommendation is correct. But in the mean time, can you use the reverse side?

Oh dear, that's a shame. It seems that whatever was stuck to the wood has an adhesive that was way too strong. If it helps I use a repositional craft glue on my patterns and stick straight onto my wood and when finished I wipe the pattern with white spirit and the pattern just falls off. Perhaps something to consider in the future ? In the past I found that blue tape did this to some of my wood so haven't used it since.

Honestly shouldn't bother you if the laser / cnc guys are taking the patterns and running them on their machines.. Now... if you're the designer and "you" don't want laser / cnc machines making your designs then by all means enforce it somehow.. but good luck with that.. Kinda like Sue Meys stipulations of here patterns.. can only make and sell X amount before needing a commercial license... How would that be enforced? and proven that you sold only 1 or 1000? She is hoping for the honor system on this because does she have the time to search out peoples sales.. does she have the right to investigate ones sales to clarify? I don't know the answers to this but if shes worried about the money she could be loosing on the commercial license she'd probably be way farther ahead by just taking the investigation time / money.. to create something new and move on from it..

Heal quickly Ralph. Therapy done correctly and diligently will speed the process and the pain/discomfort goes away.

Locks keep honest people honest. The others will do what they do.

I am almost afraid to jump into the discussion, but regarding this line, and as John Nelson commented, who counts/enforces.

That is why I can do this....you see I am a regular nut case and old and cantankerous too. So I guess being insane is just how I live. Dick heppnerguy

thanks for the nice comment. I have not had a lot of shop time lately but the wife is traveling for about 3 weeks so I hope to get more shop time now, for awhile, anyway Dick heppnerguy

Very nicely done. Pedro has some great fretwork patterns. If I recall correctly, a while back someone posted a question about Pedro, as they had tried to contact him and had gotten no reply. Glad to see he's still in business.

"TImeless!"

fantastic job

Oh that is amazing. Time well spent. Marg

Thanks Paul. For smaller projects I'll use regular paper but for larger projects that I take to the copy store, I'll use card stock. I'll have them print up 3 sets incase I want to make more or if I screw things up. Their machines print better on it and it's not as floppy as regular paper. I use mostly skip tooth blades and it also tends to force the dust down.

Beautiful clock, Bernd. You say you have your patterns printed on card stock, Why do you prefer that over regular paper?

Now that is some Awesome work!!! I made my Wife a Pendulum Clock for our 25th Anni, Still working, this past May was our 46th.

I stock many sizes, but not all. I have Mascot #60, #63, and #68 on closeout at $5.08 per tube of 10.

New here, but thanks for the effort you put in to keep this place ruining. TBH I've tried other places, but none are as helpful and friendly as here!

Look under resources and in the dropdown click on village university or better yet: https://www.scrollsawvillage.com/village-university/ Glad you remembered us. Hope you will stick around.

My Son has "Girl Friend" in Michigan and he used to buy stuff to send to her for birthday, Xmas etc, but what he now does is purchase items online and have her address as the delivery address. He tries to get items from the US.

I do a lot of compound cutting and I use a #5. Flying Dutchman Polar #5 or a Pegas #6 skip tooth is next. Softer wood I try a Ultra reverse as I like the smoother finish. For harder woods I find wrapping in box tape helps too. The real key is to go slower and not push too hard so the saw dust clears.

For the first, looks real good. A suggestion, keep your first project in your shop and watch your progress as you scroll through life.