Rolf Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 Normally I am not a big fan of Harbor Freight power tools. Although they have stepped it up a bit. They have a New scroll saw. a 22" tilting arm saw https://www.harborfreight.com/22-in-variable-speed-scroll-saw-59416.html A tilting arm saw for a meer $249, It is their Bauer line of tools. Has anyone tried one of these? I am sure it is coming from the the Chinese clone factory. so buyer beware. It may be a good entry level saw . OCtoolguy, MarieC, ChelCass and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 There have been a lot of these coming out lately, and I don't think they're made in China.. most I have seen are made in Taiwan. Grizzly has one just like it but it's green.. they also have a larger table than the others.. There was a couple other brands (Bucktool) I recently seen too when searching for the grizzly one. I also noticed they have a different dust collection set up to hook the vac to.. I'm wondering if the parts from a 22" Jet would be the same.. My issue with buying these is parts... though I suppose at the price you could just pitch it and buy another, lol.. But like with my China made EX-21.. all the normal EX parts from Seyco worked on it other than the tubing size was different for replacing the rocker arm assemblies I had to take all the pieces off the new ones and put them on the older mounts. Been an awesome saw since I did that rebuild. Pushing close to 600 hours on the meter now and still doing decent.. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwine Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 This is similar to the Wen saws, the table, the blade holders appear to be the same. The tenson knob at the rear is different but the looks are much the same. Seems to be priced along with the Wen's! Erv OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 If you look closely at the photos you'll see they do not have a slotted motor mount so adjusting the aggression is probably not an option.. Makes me wonder though if I could make a slotted mount and make that work so you could adjust it. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 (edited) Sorry. http://The Harbor Freight Bauer scroll saw, like many Bauer power tools, is manufactured in China1. Harbor Freight Tools, the company behind the Bauer brand, has production facilities in various countries to meet global demand1. http:// Brand WEN Color Black Orange Blade Material Steel Surface Recommendation Wood Power Source Corded Electric Special Feature Brushless Included Components Scroll Saw Product Dimensions 36.63"L x 17.75"W x 16.38"H Voltage 120 Volts Item Weight 53.8 Pounds Blade Length 5 Inches Number of Teeth 18 Cutting Angle 30 Degrees Current Rating 1.6 Amps Global Trade Identification Number 39710538072098, 00044459021568 UPC 044459021568 Manufacturer WEN Part Number LL2156 Item Weight 53.8 pounds Country of Origin China Item model number LL2156 Style Scroll Saw Pattern SAW Item Package Quantity 1 Special Features Brushless Batteries Required? No http://Bucktool scroll saws are manufactured by Bucktool, a brand known for providing high-quality power tools. While the brand is American, the manufacturing of their tools, including the scroll saws, is typically done in China12. Is there anything specific you need to know about the Bucktool scroll saw? http://If you’re looking for high-quality tools for your woodworking projects, you might have heard of Grizzly Tools. But where are Grizzly Tools made? The answer is that they are primarily made in Taiwan. Grizzly Tools has been working with Taiwanese manufacturers for over 30 years to produce their products. Taiwan is known for its precision and expertise in manufacturing, making it a great choice for producing tools that require accuracy and attention to detail. Grizzly Tools works closely with their Taiwanese partners to ensure that each product meets their high standards of quality and performance. In addition to Taiwan, Grizzly Tools also sources materials from other countries all over the world to create their products. Edited August 29 by JTTHECLOCKMAN OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 23 minutes ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: Sorry. http://The Harbor Freight Bauer scroll saw, like many Bauer power tools, is manufactured in China1. Harbor Freight Tools, the company behind the Bauer brand, has production facilities in various countries to meet global demand1. http:// Brand WEN Color Black Orange Blade Material Steel Surface Recommendation Wood Power Source Corded Electric Special Feature Brushless Included Components Scroll Saw Product Dimensions 36.63"L x 17.75"W x 16.38"H Voltage 120 Volts Item Weight 53.8 Pounds Blade Length 5 Inches Number of Teeth 18 Cutting Angle 30 Degrees Current Rating 1.6 Amps Global Trade Identification Number 39710538072098, 00044459021568 UPC 044459021568 Manufacturer WEN Part Number LL2156 Item Weight 53.8 pounds Country of Origin China Item model number LL2156 Style Scroll Saw Pattern SAW Item Package Quantity 1 Special Features Brushless Batteries Required? No http://Bucktool scroll saws are manufactured by Bucktool, a brand known for providing high-quality power tools. While the brand is American, the manufacturing of their tools, including the scroll saws, is typically done in China12. Is there anything specific you need to know about the Bucktool scroll saw? http://If you’re looking for high-quality tools for your woodworking projects, you might have heard of Grizzly Tools. But where are Grizzly Tools made? The answer is that they are primarily made in Taiwan. Grizzly Tools has been working with Taiwanese manufacturers for over 30 years to produce their products. Taiwan is known for its precision and expertise in manufacturing, making it a great choice for producing tools that require accuracy and attention to detail. Grizzly Tools works closely with their Taiwanese partners to ensure that each product meets their high standards of quality and performance. In addition to Taiwan, Grizzly Tools also sources materials from other countries all over the world to create their products. Not sure if it's just on my end or what but when I click on these links it just brings me back to this topic, LOL OCtoolguy and Bennet98 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 4 hours ago, kmmcrafts said: Not sure if it's just on my end or what but when I click on these links it just brings me back to this topic, LOL Yes I just copied and put them in the link button. I did not want to provide my info here to make it a link to the web site. I could have just copied and paste too. Nothing special. Anyone can just google each tool they have in mind and trace its origin. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBob Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 They have one at my local Harbor Freight. The next time I am out and about, I may stop and take a look. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted August 30 Author Report Share Posted August 30 (edited) I think the Grizzly has a tilting table. (CORRECTION IT IS A TILTING ARM SAW) As much as I love my Hawk G4-26, now that I have been using a used EX-16 (my traveling saw) and now a Pegas 21" I really like the tilting arm over a tilting table for any bevel cuts. Edited September 1 by Rolf Old Joe, OCtoolguy and Dave Monk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted August 30 Author Report Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, BadBob said: They have one at my local Harbor Freight. The next time I am out and about, I may stop and take a look. Let us know what you think. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 47 minutes ago, Rolf said: I think the Grizzly has a tilting table. As much as I love my Hawk G4-26, now that I have been using a used EX-16 (my traveling saw) and now a Pegas 21" I really like the tilting arm over a tilting table for any bevel cuts. The saw tilts. They do have ones with the tilting table too. https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-21-variable-speed-scroll-saw-with-foot-pedal/g0969 OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btseed357 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 This must have just been released. I have both Bauer and Hercules tools from Harbor Freight and have had success with them. If I didn’t already have a scroll saw I would definitely consider it. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Posted September 1 Author Report Share Posted September 1 On 8/30/2024 at 9:45 AM, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: The saw tilts. They do have ones with the tilting table too. https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-21-variable-speed-scroll-saw-with-foot-pedal/g0969 Thank you JT for catching my mistake, I was wrong about Grizzly's table. It is a tilting arm saw. OCtoolguy and kmmcrafts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 Most of the new saws coming out now days.. actually I think all of them are tilting saw and not the table.. Most are just a knockoff of the early EX saw.. and basically rebranded.. Some made in China and some of the better ones made in Taiwan. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 Some made in Mexico also. OCtoolguy and kmmcrafts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBob Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 I went buy Harbor Freight today to take a look and they sold it before I got there. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McDonald Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 38 minutes ago, BadBob said: I went buy Harbor Freight today to take a look and they sold it before I got there. I went Monday and they only had a picture. The manager is an old friend from my retail days--I will ask her to call when they get another. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTTHECLOCKMAN Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 What they are sending 1 per store?? OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 My local store says they have several in stock.. according to the website. I need to go there at some point to pick up a new multimeter as the free one they used to give out 15 years ago quit working on me.. go figure.. I have a battery drain on one of my Jeeps and also need to test the coil on one of my tractors.. Never realized just how much I use those meters until I don't have one. I even had a back-up but it didn't work either, lol.. I think my son said he hooked something up wrong and blew the fuse in them.. turns on.. just won't test anything so not a battery issue. Anyway, maybe I'll take a trip there in the next few days. My store is usually good at having inventory but not great about getting a display out very quickly.. so they probably do have several still boxed up. It's kinda a smaller store than other towns have so that is probably why. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (edited) 8 hours ago, JTTHECLOCKMAN said: What they are sending 1 per store?? Maybe they're like the famous Aldi chisels. Once word gets out on the internet, they become as rare as unicorn manure. Edited September 4 by Bill WIlson OCtoolguy, Rolf, JTTHECLOCKMAN and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJB Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 I just compared the Bauer and the recent Rikon 10-622VS. They are the exact same saw. Made in the same factory, but went out different doors. We have the Rikon 22" in my store and I have used it. I think it is a great saw; in fact I am seriously considering selling my 788 and getting the Rikon. The only difference I can see is the Bauer does not have the dust collection option. There is a harbor freight across the street, so I may pop over there after we open and check it out. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieC Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 There was a nice "write up" in the Fine Woodworking magazine on the Grizzy's new saw. I like the bigger table.....I wonder if the Pegas clamps would fit on either the Harbor freight one or the Grizzly https://www.grizzly.com/products/grizzly-21-variable-speed-scroll-saw-with-foot-pedal/g0969?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiuC2BhDSARIsALOVfBIf3jC4TB1j3x5b6jmWS8MKlZ15GPiYo53cNPa_5w8lwpAbFUKbanIaAgvmEALw_wcB Maybe @Denny Knappen would know. OCtoolguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill WIlson Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Out of an abundance of curiosity and a lack of anything productive to do, I stopped at the local HF last night to see if they had one on display. Didn't see any in the store, display or otherwise, despite their website saying they had some in stock. OCtoolguy and MarieC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmcrafts Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 I would think the Pegas clamps would work.. I doubt they re-engineered the rocker arms just to throw another cheap brand on the market. Likely most all these saws are more just assembled using existing parts. OCtoolguy and MarieC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Knappen Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 I sent an email to Grobet to check this out. OCtoolguy and MarieC 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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